i'm giving pacquaio the "benefit of the doubt" regarding PED

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  • PH|L
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    #41
    Originally posted by And Still
    1) is there a urine test for hgh?
    2) please hook me with a link

    Just like you wanted proof on my weight statements.
    1) no

    2) http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/EPO_QA.pdf

    btw what weight statements? I don't remember

    quoted from the article

    Clarification About the EPO Dectection Method

    Following misleading information in the public domain concerning the detection method for EPO and recent cases, WADA wishes to clarify the following:

    1. EPO is a performance-enhancing substance that is abused by some athletes to increase their oxygen-carrying capacity. EPO has been banned since the early 1990s. A detection method for EPO in urine was introduced in 2000.

    2. The detection method for EPO is valid and reliable. It has undergone an extensive scientific validation process and has been used successfully for many years by many anti-doping laboratories around the world.


    Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
    Stop lying.
    I'm not lying.

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    • And Still
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      #42
      Originally posted by yevskiy426
      He can do wrong just like every other person on earth.....its the Floyd fans that think everything FLoys says must be true and they will put thier lives on the line to dislike a fighter named Pacquiao
      Pcquiao fans LITERALLY refer to him as "idol".

      LITERALLY.

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      • Russian Crushin
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        #43
        Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
        Perhaps, but he's proven he's clean, and after he did so went on to dominate one of the better fighters of our era.

        Who's said what?
        He proven hes clean for 1 (one) fight......people are accusing Pac of being on PED's for many fights....so how does Manny prove that he didnt use PEDs for his last few fights since him agreeing to Floyds test only proves he clean for thier fight.....\

        You see accusing Pac of roids in previous fights can ruin his image since theres no way he can prove that he didnt use PEDs for others fights, just like every fighter(uncluding Floyd)

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        • And Still
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          #44
          Originally posted by PH|L
          1) no

          2) http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/EPO_QA.pdf

          btw what weight statements? I don't remember

          quoted from the article

          Clarification About the EPO Dectection Method

          Following misleading information in the public domain concerning the detection method for EPO and recent cases, WADA wishes to clarify the following:

          1. EPO is a performance-enhancing substance that is abused by some athletes to increase their oxygen-carrying capacity. EPO has been banned since the early 1990s. A detection method for EPO in urine was introduced in 2000.

          2. The detection method for EPO is valid and reliable. It has undergone an extensive scientific validation process and has been used successfully for many years by many anti-doping laboratories around the world.




          I'm not lying.
          Thank you for the info, primo.

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          • And Still
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            #45
            Originally posted by yevskiy426
            He proven hes clean for 1 (one) fight......people are accusing Pac of being on PED's for many fights....so how does Manny prove that he didnt use PEDs for his last few fights since him agreeing to Floyds test only proves he clean for thier fight.....\

            You see accusing Pac of roids in previous fights can ruin his image since theres no way he can prove that he didnt use PEDs for others fights, just like every fighter(uncluding Floyd)
            Did Floyd undergo Olympic testing in the, er, Olympics?

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            • Russian Crushin
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              #46
              Originally posted by And Still
              Pcquiao fans LITERALLY refer to him as "idol".

              LITERALLY.
              LMAO they say it as "thier idol" not in a religious worshiping sense and we all know that

              but that gave me a good chuckle

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                #47
                Originally posted by And Still
                Did Floyd undergo Olympic testing in the, er, Olympics?
                1996 drug procedures were nothing like todays....Most test werent invented until 2000 and that was amatuers.....he also fought like 130 amatuer fights, how do we know he wasnt juicing in those

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by yevskiy426
                  He can do wrong just like every other person on earth.....its the Floyd fans that think everything FLoys says must be true and they will put thier lives on the line to dislike a fighter named Pacquiao
                  Look I like Boxing,I like Pac and MM. It's Interesting to me the way fanatics from both sides seem like they are ready to go to war over these guys that everyone is sure the other guy is scared of the other. the bottem line is, it's possible Pac can be on something as it is that MM wants to prserve his 0....

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                  • TBear
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                    #49
                    This was already settled, the whole ped subject was a plot by several members to upset other members.

                    Originally posted by led
                    i read it in this link: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...385031&page=11

                    sugar q wrote this: I was reading where a PED specialist said the notion that Floyd is the reason this fight didnt happen is absurd because 14 days is still enough time to work a PED into your system and Team PBF knew this. The specialist said Floyd should insist on random testing up to fight time or it's a waste of time.

                    so why floyd didnt insist? if he wants to prove to fight manny is clean. is he gaining mental edge on for the fight or there is intentions that we dont really know?

                    are they really believing that pac is on peds?
                    Of course some members are not part of the plan, they were just gullible.

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                    • Russian Crushin
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Kingstan315
                      Look I like Boxing,I like Pac and MM. It's Interesting to me the way fanatics from both sides seem like they are ready to go to war over these guys that everyone is sure the other guy is scared of the other. the bottem line is, it's possible Pac can be on something as it is that MM wants to prserve his 0....
                      Im not a hardcore fan of either....i just find it hard to believe that a few words out of a mans mouth can ruin a persons image (only in the boxing forums).....its just something you dont do....Boxing is the only sport you can do that because in anyother sport like football or baseball, your gonna be in alot of pain for saying some **** like that....in baseball you will have a 95 mph baseball to the head and in football you will have a 350 pounder hitting you at full speed

                      Theres a reason not 1 ballplayer that called out Barry Bonds like that and everybody knew he took roids....
                      Last edited by Russian Crushin; 05-08-2010, 12:36 AM.

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