How much is the NSAC penalty if a fighter comes in overweight?

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Such a silly comment. Of course not but comparing testing methods in 1988 to methods now is like comparing a 1994 cell phone to today's version. What point are you trying to make here? Because using that logic, passing NSAC tests doesn't give you a clean PED slate either.

I never said it does. I'm not accusing the other S6 members of being on steroids anyways. Your slate is clean until there is tangible evidence that you've taken PEDs. Not taking OST is does not equate to tangible evidence.

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As far as i can remember.

It all started when Jose Luis Castillo kayoed Corrales with one left hook by coming in 139? or so in a ligtweight linear championship bout. It was a mess. and then on the rubber match Castillo again came over weight w/c cancelled the bout altogether.

Finkel the manager of Pacquiao at the time didnt want that kind or "work around" to happen againts Erik Morales. so they include it in the contract.

it also happened recently with Guzman and Campbell. There's a precedence and its a valid stipulation.


40 fights coming in againts Pacquiao with the same commisions's tests and out of nowhere OSDT???? what's the precedence?

Castillo was fined pretty heavily for his mistake. And the commission, not Funeka, fined Guzman. But that's not the point. I don't need a "reason" as to why Pac did it. The bottom line is, he ignores the commission when it suits him. It's very simple.

Second, we just pointed out the precedent. Prior to Mosley-Mayweather, there had been several fights where OST was used. Just read. So there is your precedent. Not that it matters but just to answer your question.

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I never said it does. I'm not accusing the other S6 members of being on steroids anyways. Your slate is clean until there is tangible evidence that you've taken PEDs. Not taking OST is does not equate to tangible evidence.

Agreed.

Now...did you ever find that Pacquiao quote? Or did you make that one up? Because I have never seen him say that full-stop (why would he?). He would have to provide a real reason - which he has albeit BS. So tell me what the whole quote is and why you stand by it.

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Hello?

**knocks on screen**

hello?

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when Pac says that he thinks giving blood will weaken him, doesn't that indicate that he does not like having blood withdrawn from his body?

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when Pac says that he thinks giving blood will weaken him, doesn't that indicate that he does not like having blood withdrawn from his body?

Wait...so you made that quote up? YES OR NO. If not, find it.

The only quote close to yours was when he said he couldn't have it take it the day of or the day before the fight. YES OR NO.

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Wait...so you made that quote up? YES OR NO. If not, find it.

The only quote close to yours was when he said he couldn't have it take it the day of or the day before the fight. YES OR NO.

what quote are you saying that I made up? So I know what to look for

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His reason would be that he doesn't like having blood withdrawn from his body.

what quote are you saying that I made up? So I know what to look for

You desperately want to be selective but as I stated, you better find the WHOLE quote. And stop leaving **** out.

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You desperately want to be selective but as I stated, you better find the WHOLE quote. And stop leaving **** out.

LOL, relax tough guy. That's not a quote and I never said it was. When I write a quote I usually indicate that its a quote.

There's nothing in that sentence to indicate that its a quote, its simply a logical deduction. When Pac (or his team) claims that he thinks giving blood will weaken him, doesn't that indicate that he does not like having blood withdrawn from his body?

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LOL, relax tough guy. That's not a quote and I never said it was. When I write a quote I usually indicate that its a quote.

There's nothing in that sentence to indicate that its a quote, its simply a logical deduction. When Pac (or his team) claims that he thinks giving blood will weaken him, doesn't that indicate that he does not like having blood withdrawn from his body?

I don't want your logical deductions because you leave out what you want. Maybe if that's just what he said, I'd deduce the same thing. Now did he say that or did he say he didn't want it the day of or the day before because it would weaken him?