Pac has more leverage in the Floyd negotiations than most people realize he does.

[Championart]

pac doesn't need floyd. what he's got in his bank account so far will probably last his family for 3 generations.

floyd has a bunch of problems with the IRS, defaulting bank loans, getting his ***elry jacked, and paying 6 bodyguards, paying for OST for the remainder of his career, etc...

floyd needs pac.

They both need each other. Don't be fooled for a second that Pac doesn't want or need the money as much as Floyd. Would it be for different reasons sure but nonetheless they both need each other equally however, Pac has more options if the fight doesn't get done due to Arum's stable of fools gold fighters that he could use to fool Pac fans into paying to see him fight.

[mikemurni]

A Floyd-Pac fight broke down. Pac went and fought his next option. made $12 million. Floyd went and fought his next option. Made $30 million.

Who needs whom?

Pac can go fight Margarito. Who else? Foreman/Cotto winner? LMAO.

Floyd can go fight anyone from 147 to 160. They are all calling out Floyd.

Floyd made huge money of Mosley because Mosley is a solid B-side.Mosley is comparable to Cotto. Margarito is the same thing despite being involved in the hand wraps controversy. Marg is the second most popular active Mexican fighter behind JMM. And he has a solid Mexican fanbase behind him especially when he fights Pac, who just few year ago had been branded as the Mexicutioner. And he is more available to fight Pac than Floyd being that both are promoted by Top Rank.

Who are the fighters that Floyd is left to fight.. Berto, Williams, Martinez. Firstly, I doubt if Haymon will allow his fighters (Berto, Williams) to fight against each other. And secondly they haven't been involved in PPV to really gauge if they can be a good B side for Floyd. Plus you dont have a fanbase that will support this fighters. The best option for Floyd that I can think of is Khan and Ortiz. And they are not tested yet in the elite WW level...

[Championart]

You think he's up for it? Money talks, remember?

Exactly thats what people are failing to see right now, Pac and Mosley were the only major fights he could get payed BIG money for while not getting criticized. Now that he eliminated Mosley there isn't anyone else out there to give him the payday that he's looking for besides Pac. Pac also needs him too but Pac has more options if the fight doesn't get made and can last another two fights before he runs out of options whereas Floyd due to his criteria doesn't have those options.

[Championart]

Floyd made huge money of Mosley because Mosley is a solid B-side.Mosley is comparable to Cotto. Margarito is the same thing despite being involved in the hand wraps controversy. Marg is the second most popular active Mexican fighter behind JMM. And he has a solid Mexican fanbase behind him especially when he fights Pac, who just few year ago had been branded as the Mexicutioner. And he is more available to fight Pac than Floyd being that both are promoted by Top Rank.

Who are the fighters that Floyd is left to fight.. Berto, Williams, Martinez. Firstly, I doubt if Haymon will allow his fighters (Berto, Williams) to fight against each other. And secondly they haven't been involved in PPV to really gauge if they can be a good B side for Floyd. Plus you dont have a fanbase that will support this fighters. The best option for Floyd that I can think of is Khan and Ortiz. And they are not tested yet in the elite WW level...

I totally agree, this is what people aren't realizing is going to play a factor in this negotiation granted Margorito wins his next fight. I'm just looking at things objectively.

[The Big Dunn]

Exactly thats what people are failing to see right now, Pac and Mosley were the only major fights he could get payed BIG money for while not getting criticized. Now that he eliminated Mosley there isn't anyone else out there to give him the payday that he's looking for besides Pac. Pac also needs him too but Pac has more options if the fight doesn't get made and can last another two fights before he runs out of options whereas Floyd due to his criteria doesn't have those options.

That is a fair point. Pac could make prob $25-28 mil total fighting marg then cotto. I guess thats good enough. floyd can make $35-40 mil(because of his promotional company rights) with manny. unless he does ODH 2 he can't make as much.

[Championart]

I was surprised to see it. The article also talks about how much money he gives to poor filipinos.

I don't think the margarito fight or the cotto 2 will make much money. I won't buy either. Marg is a cheater and the mainstream press would kill bob and manny for fighting him in mexico.

I would like to see manny drop down and defend the 140 lb title agaist tim bradley or alexander.

You won't buy it and i won't buy it but there is a huge mexican and filipino market that can and will buy it. The fight would still do good.

Those are other options that he has where he won't get crucified for fighting whereas Floyd doesn't have those options due to his criteria and would get crucified for taking those fights.

[Kobe B Bryant]

A Floyd-Pac fight broke down. Pac went and fought his next option. made $12 million. Floyd went and fought his next option. Made $30 million.

Whenever you guys compare Pacquiao and Mayweather's purses why do you guys always compare Pacquiao's GUARANTEE against Mayweather's ESTIMATES?

Kinda like comparing one car's BASE PRICE to another's FULLY LOADED PRICE to me.

[The Big Dunn]

I totally agree, this is what people aren't realizing is going to play a factor in this negotiation granted Margorito wins his next fight. I'm just looking at things objectively.

The more i think about it you are dead on. If pac and marg fight it would have to be mexico or asia since mar is still suspended in california. Since marg has no leverage pac could make a killing.

[Championart]

That is a fair point. Pac could make prob $25-28 mil total fighting marg then cotto. I guess thats good enough. floyd can make $35-40 mil(because of his promotional company rights) with manny. unless he does ODH 2 he can't make as much.

There you go, Exactly.

[The Big Dunn]

Whenever you guys compare Pacquiao and Mayweather's purses why do you guys always compare Pacquiao's GUARANTEE against Mayweather's ESTIMATES?

Kinda like comparing one car's BASE PRICE to another's FULLY LOADED PRICE to me.

Because mayweather as the promoter makes significantly more income after the ppv and movie theatre sales. Pac's numbers are usually easier to pinpoint because as just the fighter his money from ppv sales isn't as much.