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  • PACK
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    #21
    Originally posted by PittyPat
    In what way is a shot Tyson from '02 better than a prime Haye? Specifics, please.
    stronger, faster, more experience, had actually taken real shots from hw's. How about Tyson's destruction a year before the fight of a much more prime Andrew Golota. Heck Etienne and Nielsen were better than any HW's Haye has taken on and Tyson looked much better against them than Haye looked against Ruiz.

    Tyson vs. Nielsen
    Haye vs. Ruiz

    watch those two fights and it will clear any doubt that Tyson against Lewis was much better than Haye is right now.

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    • PittyPat
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      #22
      Originally posted by PACK
      stronger, faster, more experience, had actually taken real shots from hw's. How about Tyson's destruction a year before the fight of a much more prime Andrew Golota. Heck Etienne and Nielsen were better than any HW's Haye has taken on and Tyson looked much better against them than Haye looked against Ruiz.

      Tyson vs. Nielsen
      Haye vs. Ruiz

      watch those two fights and it will clear any doubt that Tyson against Lewis was much better than Haye is right now.
      Prime Golota? You've got to be kidding me. :laff2: Golota had been shot ever since the second Bowe fight - 4 years prior to meeting Tyson (and walking out of the ring instead of fighting). At least Ruiz tried to put up a fight.

      What you're doing is twisting things and taking way too stock in this resume thing. First you said Tyson from '02 is better than Haye, but now you're saying it's because of the opposition he faced? Get a grip.

      It's not opposition that matters in this case. That shot version of Tyson barely won any rounds against an ageing Lennox and got KTFO in the process - yet that automatically makes him better than Haye?

      OOOOOOOOOK.

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      • PACK
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        #23
        Originally posted by PittyPat
        Prime Golota? You've got to be kidding me. :laff2: Golota had been shot ever since the second Bowe fight - 4 years prior to meeting Tyson (and walking out of the ring instead of fighting). At least Ruiz tried to put up a fight.

        What you're doing is twisting things and taking way too stock in this resume thing. First you said Tyson from '02 is better than Haye, but now you're saying it's because of the opposition he faced? Get a grip.

        It's not opposition that matters in this case. That shot version of Tyson barely won any rounds against an ageing Lennox and got KTFO in the process - yet that automatically makes him better than Haye?

        OOOOOOOOOK.
        Uhh...Golota from back then was much better than Ruiz is today if you want to talk about shot fighters. And you might be like, but hey, how do you know that. And id be like, well 6 years ago, 4 years after Tyson faced him Golota went 12 freakin rounds with Ruiz and knocked him down twice, and somehow lost a joke decision. So 4 years after Tyson destroyed a "shot Golota" that Golota went on to knock Ruiz down twice and beat him for 12 rounds, and then 6 years after than David Haye beat Ruiz in 9 rounds...Haye would get killed by 2002 Tyson, he doesnt have the power of Tyson back in 2002, he doesnt have the head movement, or the chin either. The 2002 Tyson would be a much more dangerous opponent than David Haye.

        Change your name, you just got owned.

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        • PittyPat
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          #24
          Originally posted by PACK
          Uhh...Golota from back then was much better than Ruiz is today if you want to talk about shot fighters. And you might be like, but hey, how do you know that. And id be like, well 6 years ago, 4 years after Tyson faced him Golota went 12 freakin rounds with Ruiz and knocked him down twice, and somehow lost a joke decision. So 4 years after Tyson destroyed a "shot Golota" that Golota went on to knock Ruiz down twice and beat him for 12 rounds, and then 6 years after than David Haye beat Ruiz in 9 rounds...Haye would get killed by 2002 Tyson, he doesnt have the power of Tyson back in 2002, he doesnt have the head movement, or the chin either. The 2002 Tyson would be a much more dangerous opponent than David Haye.

          Change your name, you just got owned.
          Yada yada fuckin' yada. I ain't changing ****, and that didn't even come close to ownage. :wanker: Golota's whole career has been up and down for the past 14 years, so him scoring KDs and trumping Ruiz on some miraculous night doesn't count for **** in the grand scheme of things.

          You can go on and on all you like about how amazing Golota post-Bowe might've been, but it has no bearing whatsoever on whether Tyson from '02 would beat Haye from '10. It really doesn't. Be objective for once. Tyson was dangerous back then, but there's no concrete facts to suggest that he would steamroll over current Haye.

          There'd be a KO, that's the only sure thing one can pick from such a fight.
          Last edited by PittyPat; 05-07-2010, 10:33 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by battledrill1a
            Yeah, that is what I thought no address just typing. Ill be the first to tell you that that fat ass in that pic is as gay as your boy david haye. He is boxing version of fall out boy. What ya gonna say when he turns down wlad for a cool 3 mil and then fight adamek for 800 thou or so and get that ass beat. That is what dumb ass Haye is gonna do watch. I dont have to talk myself up with fat people pics with cap guns and ****. I can take a platoon and knock off your entire block mo fo.
            LOL! Cracked me up with that one -- nice!

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              #26
              Originally posted by PittyPat
              Yada yada fuckin' yada. I ain't changing ****, and that didn't even come close to ownage. :wanker: Golota's whole career has been up and down for the past 14 years, so him scoring KDs and trumping Ruiz on some miraculous night doesn't count for **** in the grand scheme of things.

              You can go on and on all you like about how amazing Golota post-Bowe might've been, but it has no bearing whatsoever on whether Tyson from '02 would beat Haye from '10. It really doesn't. Be objective for once. Tyson was dangerous back then, but there's no concrete facts to suggest that he would steamroll over current Haye.

              There'd be a KO, that's the only sure thing one can pick from such a fight.

              LOL. Please, don't compare Mike Tyson to David Haye. I might hurt myself laughing. Tyson could probably come back now and knock Haye out. Haye has proven nothing at heavyweight except that he should have stayed a cruiserweight. Why does this guy always need 6-8 months between fights?
              Roid cycle?

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              • PittyPat
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                #27
                Originally posted by ChopperRead
                LOL. Please, don't compare Mike Tyson to David Haye. I might hurt myself laughing. Tyson could probably come back now and knock Haye out. Haye has proven nothing at heavyweight except that he should have stayed a cruiserweight. Why does this guy always need 6-8 months between fights?
                Roid cycle?
                Whateeeever you say. The only reason I engaged in the subject is because somebody claimed that the shot 2002 version of Tyson could automatically "kill" Haye. You can laff all you want, I don't give a ****. I just don't think the outcome is as set in stone as one might assume.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PittyPat
                  Whateeeever you say. The only reason I engaged in the subject is because somebody claimed that the shot 2002 version of Tyson could automatically "kill" Haye. You can laff all you want, I don't give a ****. I just don't think the outcome is as set in stone as one might assume.
                  Maybe, maybe not. But seeing Tyson and Haye in any kind of comparison is pretty funny at this point in time. I really don't get Haye: he keeps on about how he wants to retire from boxing in a year, and then he doesn't want to fight Wlad until September or even November. How lazy is this guy? Or maybe he really is cycling on and off roids. Either way, he doesn't make a lot of sense. And I notice for all his earlier talk, he's been mighty quiet since Wlad called him a *****.

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                  • battledrill1a
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PittyPat
                    Whateeeever you say. The only reason I engaged in the subject is because somebody claimed that the shot 2002 version of Tyson could automatically "kill" Haye. You can laff all you want, I don't give a ****. I just don't think the outcome is as set in stone as one might assume.
                    I agree with my man. Haye could not take even one shot from tyson. There is not way! Just like if he does fight a real heavy with power such a klitschko he is not getting up. But yes a 2002 tyson would beat the **** out of this loud mouth little girl. Wlad or Vit will too,You will see, he will fight another bum.I fee bad for you haye fans that you have to or do support such a *****.

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                    • MurderDeathKill
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                      #30
                      So do I. Adamek can outbox Haye if given the chance. Haye's looked good at HW against slower guys, not guys who can move like Adamek. I have a feeling if Adamek beats Arreola again, we'll see this fight go down. Haye's supposed to be working out a fall deal with Wlad, but there's time left for him to ***** out of the fight still. I think he'll go after Adamek.

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