Simple Question What's The Proof Pac is on Roids?

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  • markfrombrookly
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    #41
    Originally posted by conium
    would you accept the explanation that pac.

    -carried his speed and strength all the way from feather to welter?
    -that the heavier division pac is in are slower than the lighter divisions where pac originated, thereby making it look pac is getting faster?
    -that pac can take punches ever since hes gone elite?
    It's natural that you lose something the higher weight you travel. You either lose speed or power or both sometimes. And also punch resistance. The guys you're fighting have better punch resistance then you because you're moving UP to their weight class. Pac was never manhandling dudes at the lower weights like he is now. ALso with the added weight your stamina wouldnt be as good because thats extra pounds you're carrying. But none of these things seem to affect Pac. He's faster or just as fast, Has more power, More stamina, More punch resistance even though he's facing naturally bigger men? That doesn't seem the least bit strange to you?

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      #42
      Originally posted by Squirt
      can u tell me?

      there is no real proof.....just circumstantial evidence......but the "circumstantial" evidence doesn't make Pac look good.


      - He turned down a fight with FMJ to crown the undisputed P4P # 1.....passing on a $50 million dolla payday, because of OST. He wanted a 30 day cut-off initially, then a 24 day cut-off.......windows that the PED experts have unanimously said is too big.

      - Team Pac gave a whole mish-mash of unconnected (and multiple) reasons as to why they refused OST testing......surely there should only be one reason not to comply (whatever reason that is)

      - by all indications Pac has (so far) refused to budge on a 24 day window. Now if i was a boxer and i asked a fellow boxer to to undergo USADA testing (whilst also subjecting myself to it) and he declined, even though he would make $50million, and got 50% of the money and a punitive penalty should i come in overweight....i have to think something is not right........and the fact that he refused the first time around would make me even more vigilant in demanding USADA testing the second time around......especially cosidering the other guy is singing the same tune "i want mayweather.......but 24 day cut-off.....otherwise no deal"




      That is all........there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest he "culd" be up to something.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Squirt
        im not an expert buddy but the only guy pac knocked out going up is ricky hatton. and as u can see with that type of fighting style even juan manuel marquez would have knock ricky hatton the fawk out! miguel cotto got busted up but pacquiao was more busted up no knock out. clottey fight pacquiao got more busted up too. clottey doesn't even have marks on his face.
        He knocked Ricky Hatton out COLD. Miguel Cottos face looked worse then when Margarito was hitting him with cinder blocks and he got stopped in the 12th round against Pac. Clottey felt Pacs power and stayed covered up the whole fight which that in itself says alot because Clottey is a BIG welterweight and fought all the big welterweights yet he's scared of some guys power that fought at 130 and 135lbs???

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          #44
          Originally posted by markfrombrookly
          It's natural that you lose something the higher weight you travel. You either lose speed or power or both sometimes. And also punch resistance. The guys you're fighting have better punch resistance then you because you're moving UP to their weight class. Pac was never manhandling dudes at the lower weights like he is now. ALso with the added weight your stamina wouldnt be as good because thats extra pounds you're carrying. But none of these things seem to affect Pac. He's faster or just as fast, Has more power, More stamina, More punch resistance even though he's facing naturally bigger men? That doesn't seem the least bit strange to you?
          but the thing is he has been fighting at a weight of 140+ on fight night since he was fighting morales and marquez. he didn't got big. his fights right now as a welterweight he didn't ballooned on fight night he was just at 145-147.

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            #45
            lets look at the facts;

            - mosley never tested positive, but admitted to using after his fight with DLH and before the rematch with DLH
            - pacquiao says he's not on anything but he doesnt know exactly what he's on according to his conditioning coach Ariza.
            - pacquiao refuses to take the tests because number one, he feels he's weakened by the blood tests and two, because he doesnt want to fall into mayweathers game.

            its a battle of the egos and only pacquiao is getting the short end of the stick, because he's only making himself look su****ious.
            Last edited by S H A R K B O Y; 05-06-2010, 11:49 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by schoolboy116
              lets look at the facts;

              - mosley never tested positive, but admitted to using after his fight with DLH and before the rematch with DLH
              - pacquiao says he's not on anything but he doesnt know exactly what he's on according to his conditioning coach Ariza.
              - pacquiao refuses to take the tests because number one, he feels he's weakened by the blood tests and two, because he doesnt want to fall into his game.

              its a battle of the egos and only pacquiao is getting the short end of the stick, because he's only making himself look su****ious.
              this is what im trying to say.

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                #47
                Originally posted by carts
                give some proof why he needs to be tested OST Style...????? cuz crackhead sr thinks he is on something?

                ill wait..
                Nah a bunch of boxers and fans think so... I'll give you a list of who thinks so.

                Mayweather Jr
                Mayweather Sr.
                Paulie Malignaggi
                Kermit Cintron
                Nate Campbell
                Oscar Delahoya
                Diaz

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by markfrombrookly
                  It's natural that you lose something the higher weight you travel. You either lose speed or power or both sometimes. And also punch resistance. The guys you're fighting have better punch resistance then you because you're moving UP to their weight class. Pac was never manhandling dudes at the lower weights like he is now. ALso with the added weight your stamina wouldnt be as good because thats extra pounds you're carrying. But none of these things seem to affect Pac. He's faster or just as fast, Has more power, More stamina, More punch resistance even though he's facing naturally bigger men? That doesn't seem the least bit strange to you?
                  hasnt it been discussed before that pac is actually comfortable at his current weight? that he had to cut weight making them?

                  its not really strange to me because i believe the more elite class were in the lower weights when pac was still campaigning there.

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                  • markfrombrookly
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Squirt
                    but the thing is he has been fighting at a weight of 140+ on fight night since he was fighting morales and marquez. he didn't got big. his fights right now as a welterweight he didn't ballooned on fight night he was just at 145-147.
                    LOL Obviously you believe he is clean and hey that's your opinion. I believe he is on something. The only way to take that doubt away is to take RANDOM blood and urine tests then he can shut everyone up.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by conium
                      hasnt it been discussed before that pac is actually comfortable at his current weight? that he had to cut weight making them?

                      its not really strange to me because i believe the more elite class were in the lower weights when pac was still campaigning there.

                      Uhhh almost every fighter cuts weight to make weight. Cotto doesnt walk around at 147, Clottey doesnt, Margarito doesnt, Hatton definetly doesnt walk around at 140

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