Can you guys educate me a bit on Duran's greatness?

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  • TyrantT316
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    #1

    Can you guys educate me a bit on Duran's greatness?

    I know the man is great. I have seen some of his fights and his win vs SRL. What confuses me is that there are some that call him the greatest fighter P4P of all time or at least one of them. I have not followed his career and have only "boxrec'd" his record. I notice that the fighters of note that he has fought, he has lost to. Beat SRL, but then quit in the rematch and lost the third fight, lost to Benitez, lost to Hagler, lost to Hearns, lost to Pazienza 2wice, lost to Castro, lost to Camacho 2wice.

    Now I obviously know some of those were when he was out of his prime and some WELL out of his prime.

    I am not debating this really, just trying to see what measures his greatness. Amount of fights? The era he fought in? Being the first to beat SRL? His high regard and popularity in Panama? A combination of them? etc...

    Just trying to inform myself as a Boxing fan. That's all.
  • Alpha Male
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    #2
    No mas, No mas!!!!!!!

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    • oldgringo
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      #3
      -Career record of 103-16 (70ko's)

      -He was one of only 4 other fighter to hold World Titles at 4 different weights (135, 147, 154, 160). The only other fighters to do this have been Pernell Whitaker, Tommy Hearns, and Sugar Ray Leonard. Extremely difficult to do.

      -One of the most skilled and tenacious fighters ever, and in many enthusiasts opinion is the greatest lightweight fighter to ever live. Extremely underrated defensive skills, incredible infighter, menacing workrate, almost the complete fighter.

      -Notable wins include: 135 - Buchanan, DeJesus x2
      147 - Leonard
      154 - Cuevas, Moore
      160 - Barkley
      168 - Castro

      Had one of the most complete careers ever and fought all the way up to light heavyweight. You tell me how many former lightweights could have started at 135, gone up to 147 and beaten Ray Leonard, and then go up to 160 and give Marvin Hagler hell?

      I have Duran on my list at #3 but could really be anywhere from 1-6 depending on your criteria. I hope this helped.

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      • {BrownBomber}
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        #4
        Imo his greatness was sealed when he beat a prime Barkley in an unbelievable fight at 160, and he was past his prime already.

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        • dangerousity
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          #5
          Originally posted by oldgringo
          -Career record of 103-16 (70ko's)

          -He was one of only 4 other fighter to hold World Titles at 4 different weights (135, 147, 154, 160). The only other fighters to do this have been Pernell Whitaker, Tommy Hearns, and Sugar Ray Leonard. Extremely difficult to do.

          -One of the most skilled and tenacious fighters ever, and in many enthusiasts opinion is the greatest lightweight fighter to ever live. Extremely underrated defensive skills, incredible infighter, menacing workrate, almost the complete fighter.

          -Notable wins include: 135 - Buchanan, DeJesus x2
          147 - Leonard
          154 - Cuevas, Moore
          160 - Barkley
          168 - Castro

          Had one of the most complete careers ever and fought all the way up to light heavyweight. You tell me how many former lightweights could have started at 135, gone up to 147 and beaten Ray Leonard, and then go up to 160 and give Marvin Hagler hell?

          I have Duran on my list at #3 but could really be anywhere from 1-6 depending on your criteria. I hope this helped.

          He was in the light-heavyweight division, ****! I thought his highest weight class was super middle weight.

          Duran has such a high resilience, fighting for 4 decades. Up until his late 40's.

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          • TheEvilSaint
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            #6
            "no mas" 'nuf said.

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            • xKillingJokex
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              #7
              yea man..he quit against Leonard..not because he had an injury or what not..but becuz he got frustrated..and didnt think he could catch Leonard and win the fight..i know him quitting shouldnt deminish his accomplishments..but..it sure hurt his legacy..he...QUIT...bottomline...a fierce..battle tested warrior...QUIT

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              • jack_the_rippuh
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                #8
                He had to dookie, according to boxerdog.

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                • Tha Greatest
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                  #9
                  Anybody who judges Duran by "no mas" simply doesn't know boxing...

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                  • riz
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                    #10
                    this is not like he did that, then doenst come back, or he just quit the whole sport.... its kinda like the tszyu fight, he was frustrated, he knows he wasn't gonna catch his opponent, so lets save time and quit!

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