Nate Campbell: Pacquiao takes that test, his workrate will go way down.

[Ravishing]

My friend, even if he were to "maintain" his workrate, I'd question it. How about you take into account the # of rounds for each bout?

I did, and they're as follows:

Cotto - 12 rounds
Clottey - 12 rounds
Diaz - 9 rounds
Barrera II - 12 rounds
Marquez II - 12 rounds
Morales II - 10 rounds
De La Hoya - 9 rounds

I truly don't see a huge disparity, but hey...

[IMDAZED]

I did, and they're as follows:

Cotto - 12 rounds
Clottey - 12 rounds
Diaz - 9 rounds
Barrera II - 12 rounds
Marquez II - 12 rounds
Morales II - 10 rounds
De La Hoya - 9 rounds

I truly don't see a huge disparity, but hey...

When's the last time a fighter moved up that much and you could say, "I don't see a disparity"?

Think of Floyd at 130 and then 147

Think of Roy from 160 to 175

Heck, even PW from 147 to 160!

[MuckMuck]

Why is Floyd so scared to just fight Pac without the Olympic testing?

Jose Benavidez is just seventeen and he sparred Pac and mopped the floor with him.



If a 17 year old with a handful of pro fights can **** a "roided" Pac then you shouldn't have a problem, Floyd. Just sign the contract.

[da chosen 1]

Cotto vs Pacquiao (145): Pacquiao total punches thrown - 780 12 rounds tko
Pacquiao vs Morales II (130): Pacquiao total punches thrown -795 10 rounds tko
Pacquiao vs Diaz (135): Pacquiao total punches thrown - 788 9rounds tko
Pacquiao vs Marquez II (130) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 619 12 rounds
Pacquiao vs Clottey (147) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 1,231 12 rounds
Pacquiao vs De La Hoya (147) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 585 8 rounds
Pacquiao vs Barrera (130) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 694 12 rounds

[PinoyZoi]

Jenna J: What will happen if you and the opponent accidentally headbutt?
Nate Campbell: Ima ****ing quit!!! I see blindspot!

[them_apples]

Because we have seen Pac's workrate INCREASE as he goes up in weight and as he gets older.

Is Pac the most spectacular physical specimen in the history of human biology?

are you ******? his workrate increased? more like you have never even watched him in the lower weight classes. You just keep pulling **** out of your ass.

Ever watch Pacquiao vs Barrera 1? If that's not workrate I don't know what is.

It's not hard to throw 100+ punches per round against an oponent just trying to survive. Pacquiao wasn't able to do this against Cotto.

[PensionKiller]

When's the last time a fighter moved up that much and you could say, "I don't see a disparity"?

Think of Floyd at 130 and then 147

Think of Roy from 160 to 175

Heck, even PW from 147 to 160!

Answer me these first.

Do you think Pac not having 10% of his weight is an advantage?

Do you think that he only had a left hand before that was good/great?

Do you think that boxers have different times of prime?

[mcdoodledoo]

Pac has now got himself in a bad position. I don't think he is cheating, but now if he takes and passes the tests and fights Floyd, we all know that Mayweather always manages to cut his opponents work rate down, just look at the fight last week (?) against Mosley, where Mosley hardly threw anything. So if this occurs, then everyone will think Pac was cheating but didn't for that fight. Interesting.

[Ravishing]

When's the last time a fighter moved up that much and you could say, "I don't see a disparity"?

Think of Floyd at 130 and then 147

Think of Roy from 160 to 175

Heck, even PW from 147 to 160!

But that's the problem, we can't measure all these different fighters and what they individually do in comparison to each other because everyone's built from a different cloth. If it were that simple, then we can all measure fighters exactly the same and they'd be robots, but that's obviously not the case.

As far as Floyd, some would argue he looks better than he ever has based on his performance last Saturday. But are we to assume that he wasn't as fast or as strong as he's ever been? It's up for debate I guess...

[IMDAZED]

Answer me these first.

Do you think Pac not having 10% of his weight is an advantage?

Do you think that he only had a left hand before that was good/great?

Do you think that boxers have different times of prime?

Not having 10% of his weight? Explain?

Pac had two hands against Marquez the second time. Worked fine to me.

Of course they do. And they slow down at some point. Usually 60 fights into a 15 year career, they've slowed down a lot.