Nate Campbell: Pacquiao takes that test, his workrate will go way down.

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  • PensionKiller
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    #31
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    People don't ignore it, that's why we think he's shady. He's fine taking a blood test 19 days out for STD's and then can train the next day? Dude is a joke.
    That was a test to see how he reacts.

    He was draining 13lbs before and gaining up to 130 (10%). Now it's 5 lbs down and up in muscle at 147 weight.

    I gurantee you he will take the test for Mayweather. He body isn't drained so badly, he doesn;t worry about weight as before.

    You only thought he was shady since Mayweather called it.

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      #32
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      People don't ignore it, that's why we think he's shady. He's fine taking a blood test 19 days out for STD's and then can train the next day? Dude is a joke.
      I lost count on all the lame excuses him and his camp have come out with. As a fan I want to see Mayweather - Pacquiao, but I wouldn't be satisfied unless Pacquiao takes the full test.

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      • Ravishing
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        #33
        Originally posted by And Still
        Because we have seen Pac's workrate INCREASE as he goes up in weight and as he gets older.

        Is Pac the most spectacular physical specimen in the history of human biology?
        That's not true...

        Cotto vs Pacquiao (145): Pacquiao total punches thrown - 780
        Pacquiao vs Morales II (130): Pacquiao total punches thrown - 795
        Pacquiao vs Diaz (135): Pacquiao total punches thrown - 788
        Pacquiao vs Marquez II (130) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 619
        Pacquiao vs Clottey (147) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 1,231
        Pacquiao vs De La Hoya (147) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 585
        Pacquiao vs Barrera (130) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 694

        I can see if it were something like Pacquiao only throwing 400 punches a fight and all of a sudden shooting up to 900 consistently. But basing off these numbers, besides the Clottey fight (which he had to throw a lot just to land), it's not out of the ordinary. He's always been an active fighter. Now in the sense of what people assume is "Power" and "Strength" that you achieve by using PEDs presumably, with the exception of Diaz and Hatton, he didn't necessarily KO Cotto or Oscar out more than the fight being stopped, and Clottey not once looked hurt and he got hit with shots too.

        My thing is, provide proof of something. At least with Barry Bonds and McGwire, there were smoking guns who had proof. But where's Pacquiao's smoking gun? Or do we just assume he's guilty?

        ...and I'm not what you guys call a "*******" lol. Just callin it like I see it.
        Last edited by Ravishing; 05-06-2010, 03:27 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by PensionKiller
          That was a test to see how he reacts.

          He was draining 13lbs before and gaining up to 130 (10%). Now it's 5 lbs down and up in muscle at 147 weight.

          I gurantee you he will take the test for Mayweather. He body isn't drained so badly, he doesn;t worry about weight as before.

          You only thought he was shady since Mayweather called it.
          To see how he reacts to what?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Siggy
            i think another reason why manny has been able to "extend his physical" prime is that he doesnt have to kill himself to make weight anymore. he fights much closer to his walk around weight. physically melting to make weight is what shortens smaller fighters' careers.
            50-something fights later? Yeah right.

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              #36
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              To see how he reacts to what?
              The blood tests were done with Clottey.

              I think because Pac said he felt weak VS Morales 1, that they wnated to test how he feels at this weight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                You must not hang around many Boxing fans.
                Cool. I forgot all of you guys have phDs.

                I'm still waiting for Manny's name to pop up in any formal investigation though. You know, like Mosley. Which BTW, I had no problem with Floyd making him take a test.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ravishing
                  That's not true...

                  Cotto vs Pacquiao (145): Pacquiao total punches thrown - 780
                  Pacquiao vs Morales II (130): Pacquiao total punches thrown - 795
                  Pacquiao vs Diaz (135): Pacquiao total punches thrown - 788
                  Pacquiao vs Marquez II (130) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 619
                  Pacquiao vs Clottey (147) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 1,231
                  Pacquiao vs De La Hoya (147) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 585
                  Pacquiao vs Barrera (130) Pacquiao total punches thrown - 694

                  I can see if it were something like Pacquiao only throwing 400 punches a fight and all of a sudden shooting up to 900 consistently. But basing off these numbers, besides the Clottey fight (which he had to throw a lot just to land), it's not out of the ordinary. He's always been an active fighter. Now in the sense of what people assume is "Power" and "Strength" that you achieve by using PEDs presumably, with the exception of Diaz and Hatton, he didn't necessarily KO Cotto or Oscar out more than the fight being stopped, and Clottey not once looked hurt and he got hit with shots too.

                  My thing is, provide proof of something. At least with Barry Bonds and McGwire, there were smoking guns who had proof. But where's Pacquiao's smoking gun? Or do we just assume he's guilty?

                  ...and I'm not what you guys call a "*******" lol. Just callin it like I see it.
                  My friend, even if he were to "maintain" his workrate, I'd question it. How about you take into account the # of rounds for each bout?

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PensionKiller
                    The blood tests were done with Clottey.

                    I think because Pac said he felt weak VS Morales 1, that they wnated to test how he feels at this weight.
                    Hey genius, he has that same blood test done before EVERY fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                      Jenna J: How do you think a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao would go?


                      Nate Campbell: Mayweather would beat Pacquiao like he stole his mother's purse.

                      Pause

                      Jenna J: So you don't have an opinion on it?
                      Did she really just pause like that, like she was shocked?

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