Nate Campbell: Pacquiao takes that test, his workrate will go way down.

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  • Siggy
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    #21
    Originally posted by And Still
    Because we have seen Pac's workrate INCREASE as he goes up in weight and as he gets older.

    Is Pac the most spectacular physical specimen in the history of human biology?
    i think it has something to do with him having a wider arsenal of punches and an emphasis on speed combinations as opposed to power shots.
    i also think it has something to do with fighting bigger fighters where his power isnt what it was at the lower divisions so he has to beat his opponents via accumulation.
    lastly, i think his work rate increased becuz he became a better fighter who's equipped with more methods to attack.

    he's not floyd, he cant move up the divisions and become a more precise, single shot counter puncher. roach accentuated his style and pac became what he became.
    he ALWAYS had great stamina and fought with great energy, now he knows how to channel that more effectively with great results.

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      #22
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Prime? Lower weight fighters experience their prime in their early to mid 20's. This dude is nearly 60 fights in a pro career that's spanned 15 years and countless wars and his workrate makes Paul Williams look like Bernard Hopkins. Get real, man.
      Again, he's not a 36 year old hitting 73 homeruns.

      It's common knowledge that an athletes prime years are at 27-30 years old.

      Get real, man.

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        #23
        Originally posted by tredh
        Even though I hate to say it that distinction belongs to Barry "BALCO" Bonds!!!! Increasing everything as they age. Coincidence????
        Bonds was 36 when he hit 73. Manny is 31. I don't see any coincidence.

        And there was an actual formal investigation on Bonds with Balco and the Mitchell report. You now, guys with college degrees.

        All this Manny accusations are from one family. One of which who can't accept Roach is a better trainer than he is.

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          #24
          Originally posted by DonRon
          Again, he's not a 36 year old hitting 73 homeruns.

          It's common knowledge that an athletes prime years are at 27-30 years old.

          Get real, man.
          Nonsense. How many lower division fighters hit their prime at 27? Erik Morales was 21 when he KO'ed Zaragoza. So was Salvador Sanchez. Marco Antonio Barrera. You don't go through so many wars in 60 fights and maintain your prime. YOU get real.

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            #25
            Originally posted by DonRon
            Bonds was 36 when he hit 73. Manny is 31. I don't see any coincidence.

            And there was an actual formal investigation on Bonds with Balco and the Mitchell report. You now, guys with college degrees.

            All this Manny accusations are from one family. One of which who can't accept Roach is a better trainer than he is.
            You must not hang around many Boxing fans.

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              #26
              As a fan of boxing and Manny, I don't think he cheats at all.

              Heck he took a blood test for Clottey didn't he?

              People like to ignore that.

              The only thing that can take Pac's workrate is Floyd who is a master boxer.

              Even if Pac does fight May with blood tests, people gonna say he's a cheat because he workrate is less.

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                #27
                physical primes are different for each sport. its not as much about specific age as it is about physical wear and tear.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by And Still
                  Because we have seen Pac's workrate INCREASE as he goes up in weight and as he gets older.

                  Is Pac the most spectacular physical specimen in the history of human biology?
                  You can't have it two vways.

                  Either Hatton was tailor made

                  Cotto shot

                  Diaz a bum

                  Oscar a zombie

                  or he is a cheat and thus his workrate went up.

                  How about that he isn't drained

                  Dios should know thsi with Guzman.

                  The other thing, Roach trained up his right hand so he can actually hit with both now.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PensionKiller
                    As a fan of boxing and Manny, I don't think he cheats at all.

                    Heck he took a blood test for Clottey didn't he?

                    People like to ignore that.

                    The only thing that can take Pac's workrate is Floyd who is a master boxer.

                    Even if Pac does fight May with blood tests, people gonna say he's a cheat because he workrate is less.
                    People don't ignore it, that's why we think he's shady. He's fine taking a blood test 19 days out for STD's and then can train the next day? Dude is a joke.

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                    • Siggy
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Nonsense. How many lower division fighters hit their prime at 27? Erik Morales was 21 when he KO'ed Zaragoza. So was Salvador Sanchez. Marco Antonio Barrera. You don't go through so many wars in 60 fights and maintain your prime. YOU get real.
                      i think another reason why manny has been able to "extend his physical" prime is that he doesnt have to kill himself to make weight anymore. he fights much closer to his walk around weight. physically melting to make weight is what shortens smaller fighters' careers.

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