Reason Why Floyd CAN Go Down as GOAT or Top 5

[jrosales13]

hell yeah I would and I been hating on Pac's cowardly ducking recently but I can't deny greatness...

Some of you guys are insane.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I ike how you throw Williams in there.

And you know I am one of the biggest Paul fans on the site.

But the man lost to Carlos Quintana, and hasn't beaten any top 10 p4p fighters.

Pacquiao... A HUGE step.

Martinez... not so much... but Martinez for the MW title... a HUGE step.

But Williams?

A huge risk... but a fighter whose already shown he can be beaten, and hasnt beaten any top p4p fighters himself.

Cotto has a loss to Marg didnt hurt Pac.

Shane has 5 losses didnt hurt Floyd.

You dont have to undefeated to be a good fighter and a good test. Look at Pac he took some L's too. Hopkins took L's.

Williams beat Margarito when he was the Number 1 WW.

He beat Martinez as well the Number 1 JMW and newly P4Pounder. Its not just who Paul beat its about what he brings to the table.

A giant who is an insane match up nightmare for Pacquiao and a guy who himself is a Top 5 P4Pounder. Even Top 3 on most lists.

Williams isnt ranked that high for nothing. Anyone who thinks if Pac beats him thats it not a great when is kidding themselves. Also he has a 8 inch height advantage and an 18 inch reach advantage. Pac should lose this fight easily. If he wins its GREAT.

[Cash Cow]

I ike how you throw Williams in there.

And you know I am one of the biggest Paul fans on the site.

But the man lost to Carlos Quintana, and hasn't beaten any top 10 p4p fighters.

Pacquiao... A HUGE step.

Martinez... not so much... but Martinez for the MW title... a HUGE step.

But Williams?

A huge risk... but a fighter whose already shown he can be beaten, and hasnt beaten any top p4p fighters himself.

yes please talk some sense into Burner

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

yes please talk some sense into Burner

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[jrosales13]

according to most floyd fans, PAC aint ****...so why would beating him elevate floyd?

Because, beating a one dimensional, overrated media hype job, no defense having, PED using cheater, who cowardly ducks and cherrypicks can do wonders for somebody legacy.

[etlux]

Seriously if floyd beats pac, martinez, williams and one of the elites at 168 lbs i say he is top 15-20 ATG.

LOL! you'r ethe biggest hater ever born for real. damn you can't even give props in a hypothetical situatioN? You truly are pathetic.

So where do you rank pac now then? #1?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Because normal people don't go by "most floyd fans".

Or most Pac fans for that matter.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^

[jrosales13]

Ask 25... I am always down.. he always seems to be pre-occupied.

Why don't you just run your won show?

[mathed]

There's one very big glaring and obvious reason why Floyd "Check Casher" Mayweather has a good chance to go down as the greatest of all time or at least top 5 ATG.
The reason is simple:

no one else on the ATG list including Sugar Ray Robinson has faced and beaten an opponent also ranked in the top ATG list.

Who did Sugar Ray Robinson beat that was ranked in top 5 or even top 10 ATG? Maybe I'm missing someone but Lamotta sure as hell isn't in the top 10 probably barely edges out the top 50.

It's not about their skill, it's about that rare potential that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao represents. Never before, or at least not in a long time have two potential ATG's been both in their prime and ready to face off.

If Mayweather defeats Pacman and Pac goes down in the top 10 ATG as many of his nuthugging fans claim he will, then Mayweather will go down in history as one of the few greats that has proven himself against a top ATG opponent.
The only other time two ATG's of this stature were fighting each other was during the Fab 4 in the 1980's and most of those guys are considered top 10 and top 5 ATG's in particular Duran and SRL. So with that said, similarly Mayweather could be ranked right up there with them if he defeats Pacquiao though ofcourse it works both ways and Pacquiao could be the one up there if he defeats Floyd.
Not to mention both are also 5 and 6 division champs just like the Fab 4 guys, Duran was a 6 division champ, SRL was 5, and Hearns also was 6 if you count minor titles I believe.
However I should state that even if he beats Pac that probably would not elevate Floyd above SRL or Duran because they conquered as many (and more) divisions than him AND still fought each other (top ATG's). So for Floyd to be ranked higher than them he would have to not only decisively defeat Pacman but he'd have to either make another important win or two at 154 OR conquer one last strap at 160 for his 6th division which would match what DLH did when he went up and got Sturm's strap. I think Floyd can do this, as 160 is particularly weak right now and I can easily see him beating Sturm and probably doing the Martinez on Pavlik as well, however I just can't see him going that far up at the tail end of his career because I really do feel he only has 1 or 2 fights left though I could be wrong.
But I think if he beats Pac and Martinez he'd be up there in the top 10 or 15 at worst ATG and if he beats Pac, Martinez and maybe one or two more big names at 154-160 then he could make it into top 5 ATG.

Nice post but do you think you can send over the other 49,900 points that you owe on that bet?

[Boxin']

according to most floyd fans, PAC aint ****...so why would beating him elevate floyd?

well said....