Sugar Ray Robinson vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[Pullcounter]

After hearing burner say that Floyd is better and has more skill than Robinson, I wanted to see if there were any non-delusional posters on here. Robinson at WW in his prime absolutely destroys Floyd and it wouldn't be competitive. Thoughts?

only crackheads think floyd > SRR.

[r.burgundy]

When was he ever almost KO'd at welterweight? Tommy Bell is about the only welterweight who ever managed to hurt him.

I think Mayweather would have his hands full with Kid Gavilan. These were big welterweights we're talking about, each almost 6 feet tall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artie_Levine

On November 6, 1946, Levine challenged Sugar Ray Robinson. Robinson claimed Levine hit him with the hardest punch of his career when he knocked Sugar Ray down and out for a 21-second long count.

Of the fight, The Ring Magazine wrote:

Sugar ... was almost kayoed in the fourth round. A left hook, followed by a right cross, both to the chin, put (him) down and almost out... Sugar rose unsteadily and called upon all his ring skill and stamina to last out the round...Sugar had several other close calls during the course of the evening.

these ww werent big.they were tall and skinny as can be.cintron,rito and paul williams are probally the biggest welters ever

[Kagami Taiga]

ray robinson fought at featherweight also when he was 19.about the same age as floyd was.he fought in the golden gloves as a feather and his 1st 8 or 9 fights were at featherweight

u cant compare the weight classes of yester year to todays. they were much more mobile. srr went from 135 to 147 in the span of one damn year

[NChristo]

Fighters get better with each era. Better eating habits, better training and so on. Its not fair to compare the past to the present.

That's why our Heavyweight Division is so skilled, athletic and healthy compared to the 60s - 70s, I mean come on compare Arreola to any of them, he's just so far superior .

If anything this era is the weakest in most weights apart from Welter when compared to previous eras.

[r.burgundy]

That's why our Heavyweight Division is so skilled, athletic and healthy compared to the 60s - 70s, I mean come on compare Arreola to any of them, he's just so far superior .

If anything this era is the weakest in most weights apart from Welter when compared to previous eras.

i guess youve never seen 2 ton tony gallento

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

wrong guy.gavilan was about 5'11 with a ****ed up haircut

Im not talking physical looks. Im talking about his style man...lol.

[NChristo]

i guess youve never seen 2 ton tony gallento

That's 1 guy :x, doesn't change anything I said.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I think Gavilan was a better boxer although he wasn't afraid to stand and trade. Gavilan was a very good ring general who worked behind a steady jab although he would occasionally brawl, relying on his handspeed and ability to take a punch. There was more pressure on fighters to be exciting then, otherwise they wouldn't get the big fights.

Not all of Gavilan's best fights are on youtube but these are worth a watch:

Okay cool. I threw these in my favorites. I'll check them out.

[r.burgundy]

Im not talking physical looks. Im talking about his style man...lol.

o lol.he didnt fight like shane.he was more of a boxer.he fought at a measured pace and liked to jab

[r.burgundy]

That's 1 guy :x, doesn't change anything I said.

areola is only 1 guy.i dont think any heavy pre-80s other than ali stands a chance against ike ibeabuchi