Sugar Ray Robinson vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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    #121
    Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
    Most of you have never seen Robinson fight, and like sheep, are merely advocating his superiority based on word of mouth, and other peoples opinions.

    In my opinion, based upon what I've seen, SRR wasn't even the greatest "sugar" of all time. In my opinion that title goes to Leonard.

    As for SRR vs. Mayweather? I'm not sure. I've seen more of Mayweather, and not enough of Robinson.
    i have all the fights of robinson on blu ray dvd cuz im a boxing fan

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    • geribeetus
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      #122
      Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
      Most of you have never seen Robinson fight, and like sheep, are merely advocating his superiority based on word of mouth, and other peoples opinions.

      In my opinion, based upon what I've seen, SRR wasn't even the greatest "sugar" of all time. In my opinion that title goes to Leonard.

      As for SRR vs. Mayweather? I'm not sure. I've seen more of Mayweather, and not enough of Robinson.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #123
        As already said, can any of us even judge this? SRR Welterweight fights on video are so hard to find, unless you personally saw him most of us have very little idea how good he was.

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        • Hannibal Barca
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          #124
          Originally posted by geribeetus
          Um... ok? I'm confused.

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          • jaskieee
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            #125
            I dont think 15 rounds would affect Floyd badly, and i dont think 12 would have a negative affect on Robinson. I cant see either getting stopped, probably Robisnon by SD but could go either way

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            • geribeetus
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              #126
              Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
              Um... ok? I'm confused.
              probably not a new feeling for you. you'll forget in a few minutes

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              • r.burgundy
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                #127
                Originally posted by trk
                Some people have been saying SRR, SRL, Hearns, Oldtime Welterweight X, etc. would beat Floyd because they are too big. I don't think that type of reasoning is valid because size does not win fights except for heavyweights, and even for them there are other factors that are more important (which is why 217 lb David Haye was able to beat 316 lb Nikolay Valuev). Aside from heavyweights, everyone else has a weight limit they have to be under which means that boxers with a naturally heavier build will either have to lose muscle mass or dehydrate themselves to make weight. Both approaches have some major disadvantages, which might explain why two of the smallest boxers in the WW division are currently dominating everyone who tries to fight against them. Besides, SRR was at his best in his youth when he weighed around 144 rather than later on when he weighed around 160.

                Secondly, for those predicting an early KO: almost half of SRR's fights ended in decisions. Expecting him to KO someone who has great defense and has never been close to being knocked out is a little unreasonable. A fight between SRR and Floyd Mayweather is almost certain to go the distance. SRR is the GOAT and I think I would favor him to win but it should be a very competitive fight.
                problem is alot of these guys dont know what big means.ray rob was tall but far from big.he had a thin frame.they also have a poor understanding of rays power.he was a volume puncher from everything ive seen.he was murederous at welter cause majority of guys he fought didnt deserve to be in a boxing ring.majority of his fights were physical mismatches due to height.

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                • TheGreatA
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by r.burgundy
                  problem is alot of these guys dont know what big means.ray rob was tall but far from big.he had a thin frame.they also have a poor understanding of rays power.he was a volume puncher from everything ive seen.he was murederous at welter cause majority of guys he fought didnt deserve to be in a boxing ring.majority of his fights were physical mismatches due to height.
                  Volume puncher? I can't come up with too many names who had as many one punch knockouts as Robinson did. About his decisions, Robinson admitted to carrying many opponents at the request of the mob, for example Charley Fusari.

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                    #129
                    also there were less belts before ...
                    so all these belts people are winning these days
                    are nothing belts ....

                    ray robinson was champion period ... not wbc , wba or ibf
                    but THE CHAMPION

                    even now mayweather only has 1/3 of the belts ...

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                    • Hannibal Barca
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by geribeetus
                      probably not a new feeling for you. you'll forget in a few minutes
                      Because posting bottle images in response to a post that seemingly stumped you is the epitome of intelligence.

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