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You can overrate Judah all you want. Sooner or later everybody is going to recognize him for what he really is..Overrated and a fight dodger. In short he will be exposed again very shortly. The next time he fights a guy with a heartbeat.
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I never said judah was the best fighter. I just feel that you have no point and argument when you say he would lose to gatti and harris. What is it based onOriginally posted by McKayComment
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its becoming a pattern. You dont answer anyone's questions. You question dodger. Glass brainComment
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Judah doesn't have that bad a chin. I don't know how being questionably KOed by one of the hardest punchers in the sport and being KD'ed while you were off-balance on a perfect counter shot by Spinks all of a sudden makes you have a glass chin.
Plenty of fighters have had A LOT of success with average chins...Comment
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McKay. Its simple. Please explain why Arturo Gatti is a more accomplished fighter than Zab Judah, and how he is considered one of the top dogs in the division.Originally posted by McKay
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He's also been put down by a couple other guys too and there was nothing questionable about the Tszyu KO, he'd have got seriously hurt if the ref let it go on.Originally posted by oldgringo
I don't want to offend the 2 Judah guys on here coz I think they're alright but he does have serious flaws as a fighter and nothing he's done since the KT fight disproves that, especially being 1-1 with Cory Spinks who is without doubt the perfect opponent for him. He definitely has the talent to beat anyone on the right night but he's just as likely to get KTFO if he ever faces a decently skilled puncher again.Comment
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Originally posted by Frank the Tank
Bergman put him down and I don't remember the other guy who put him down (Millet maybe?) but that's not what I'm arguing here. I know he has an average to above average chin but many fighters have had success with that level chin in their primes. Judah also seems to carry 147 better and seems like he can take a better shot at this weight (would you disagree?)
I called the Tszyu KO questionable because it was stopped only on the basis that he got up, danced around, and fell down again. We all know that IMMEDIATELY after it was stopped he was up and alert and in Nadys face about the stoppage. I'm not saying that I disagree with the stoppage because I thought it was the correct call, but had Judah not gotten up so early he almost surely would have been on more stable legs. Still theres no shame in being KOed by Kostya Tszyu after eating two big right hands.
I still think you are holding too much weight with the past. The Judah of today is lightyears ahead of where he was against Tszyu (doesn't back up with his hands down nearly as much anymore...part of the reason he was KOed) and he's shown that he has a better head on his shoulders. Saying that Spinks is taylor made for Judah is actually a very big compliment you know...Comment
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You might be right but I don't think he's faced the kind of opposition yet that would back you up. Spinks was perfect for him because he couldn't hurt him and he allowed Judah to be the agressor. My doubts are when he comes up against a fighter who will have him backing up because I don't think he's got the mental discipline to be evasive all night and I don't think he has the punch resistance for a tear-up. He may prove me wrong, but he hasn't yet.Originally posted by oldgringoComment
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What about Micky Ward?Originally posted by Frank the Tank
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Maybe someone a bit more adept than Ward. Hell, Hatton looked evasive against Tackie but he aint no Pernell Whitaker.Originally posted by RunWithKnives
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