It is a ****ing travesty that they are letting Pac fight without testing.............

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  • Boxing Scene
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    #141
    Originally posted by Ray*


    A lot of people are in denial, They would rather turn a blind eye to facts and just rant about irrelevant things.
    FYI there are no facts proving Pac has used anything, and thank you for pointing that out.

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    • sweetpea87
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      #142
      To be honest I don't give a **** as long as the fight happens

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        #143
        Originally posted by dominicano soy!
        your throwing feathers at me. Give up.

        Please...



        lol............

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        • Ray*
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          #144
          Originally posted by braddman
          FYI there are no facts proving Pac has used anything, and thank you for pointing that out.

          Who said anything about Pac using anything? Fact is Pacquiao lied about his reasons for not wanting testing, Fact is he lied about the caught of dates that he wanted and was caught out not once not twice!

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            #145
            Originally posted by braddman
            So you believe he's using?

            Going by all the lies that came out from Pacquiao or his team after agreeing and back out of the agreed test yes! Going by all the excuses that made the whole situation look horrible oh double yes!

            But do i really thing he's on something with my hand on my heart Hell NO!

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              #146
              Originally posted by HTownAstro
              within 2 1/2 weeks before the fight....

              I know that I'll get a lot of hate and red K but who cares... I am telling how I really feel about this situation.... I havent really elaborated on my thoughts until now.....

              I mean not only are the Mayweathers saying it, but tons of other trainers and fighters are saying the same thing....

              THE MAN WHO MADE THE ****ING PED'S is saying it, and also said that Pac can have it out of his system WITHIN 48-72 HOURS!!!

              I am looking at boxing the same way as baseball when they had McGwire and Sosa chasing the record..... They are just trying to make the most money as possible....

              And I wont lie, I feel like Pac has the biggest chance off beating Mayweather out of anybody.... If I thought it was all natural, then I wouldnt even care whether or not they fought..... But for some ACCUSED PED user going out there and fighting with PEDs is ****ing ridiculous....

              Ever heard the saying "If one person doesnt like you, shame on them..... If EVERYONE doesnt like you, SHAME ON YOURSELF.."

              That the way I feel about Pac... A lot of people are saying this, not just Mayweather.....

              Plus if you were being looked at as a cheater, WOULDNT YOU WANT TO PROVE TO EVERYONE THAT YOU are CLEAN???

              I know that I would....
              Good to hear a logical opinion.

              I for one DON'T want to see this fight anymore. I think Manny should be stripped of everything and forgotten about, as a boxing fan I am insulted at the fact that the guy asking for the test gets villanized.

              It's as if they wouldn't care if manny won the fight by cheating..

              **** THAT FIGHT....

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              • IMDAZED
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                #147
                Originally posted by Bacatit
                Good to hear a logical opinion.

                I for one DON'T want to see this fight anymore. I think Manny should be stripped of everything and forgotten about, as a boxing fan I am insulted at the fact that the guy asking for the test gets villanized.

                It's as if they wouldn't care if manny won the fight by cheating..

                **** THAT FIGHT....
                That's all there is to it. Reminds me of that Matrix scene where Morpheus says, "I didn't say it would be easy, Neo...I just said it would be the truth."

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                • Bacatit
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Ray*

                  Going by all the lies that came out from Pacquiao or his team after agreeing and back out of the agreed test yes! Going by all the excuses that made the whole situation look horrible oh double yes!

                  But do i really thing he's on something with my hand on my heart Hell NO!
                  Why are you still entertaining Bradmann ?

                  He's a dork, just ignore him

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Nah, he gets criticism for lying and making up BS. Do you close your eyes when you look in the mirror, Phil? Just wondering - cuz it seems like you do your best to avoid that fact.
                    He gets criticism because his and his team's statements were not in line regarding what he was willing to accept and why. That's a direct result of him being willing to negotiate to get the fight done. If he had just said NO the whole way through, he would get LESS criticism. Which is dumb, because at the end of the day he should get credit for being willing to budge to make this fight happen on an issue where he could easily have just said no if he didn't want the fight.

                    Do I think Pacquiao handled his public statements to the media properly? **** no. Do I think it means he's on PED's, of course not. One has nothing to do with the other.

                    How many times did Pac's team say he would accept a 50/50 split against Hatton, only for Pac to almost have the whole fight fall apart because he wanted 52/48? In a way its a no surprise that Pac and his team looks so discombobulated in negotiations.

                    But when it comes to fighting, you can't knock on him because he is the best. And the whole thing about PEDs is just what his competitors are using to bring him down because he's so dangerous in the ring.
                    Last edited by PH|L; 05-05-2010, 04:34 PM.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      But Pac has proved hes clean many times. He is just being made an example of, like he is the first ever to have OSDT.
                      OK PBF asked SSM first now, but that is more like a smokescreen. PBF wanted Pac to do it first and not SSM. Pac feels bullied, and its the principle of the matter.

                      He is scared it will effect his performance, and that should be taken into consideration.
                      He has not proved he is clean , Pac has never had random blood testing for PEDS , he has the very flawed urine tests , that is not proof he is not using PEDS ,,, the only way Pac feels bullied is because people expect him to have said yeah sure not a problem just like any other fighter would do in the same situation , Pac has made himself look su****ious , he needs to takle the test .

                      People have cheated for a lot less money than what Pac has earned in his last few fights and the money on the table now is huge , take the ***en test !

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