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  • yeks
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    #21
    Originally posted by TEDetc
    What? That's totally different to Pacs situation lol. Floyd demanding additional tests isn't ***** because all Pac has to do is accept them and the fight is on. Where as Pac refusing to take the tests just further raises su****ions, two totally different situations.
    it's different because you believe so..

    but if you read between the lines, why does pbf demand an OST after seeing how pac crushes cotto after taking cotto's best shot.. floyd Sr said it best in the interview after pac-cotto, he thinks pac is into something..

    pac not bowing to pbf's demand is not a ***** move, its to show pbf he can't demand anything from his opponent, all they need is compromise..

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      #22
      Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
      NSAC rules are 141-147 is a WW fight, but fighters can agree on a catchweight.

      NSAC rules are that you must take their test, but fighters can agree on additional testing.
      It's OK for Pac to request something not in the rules but not Mayweather? Pacs rule changing actually gives him an advantage, Mayweathers does not.
      that's the problem, pac's camp didn't agree in floyds demand.. now move on..

      it takes two boxers to compromise for the fight to take place..

      Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
      So pac can juice?

      stop beating a dead horse already.. not because a man have extra-ordinary power means he juiced up.. pac has taken all the doping test right after the fight and he hasn't even failed once.. try again..

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      • Hannibal Barca
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        #23
        We know. Mayweather's scared of Pac, he ducked him, he doesn't want to fight him. Additional testing is bad for the sport, blah, blah, blah. We get it. There's no need for 100 threads about the same damn thing.

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        • TEDetc
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          #24
          Originally posted by yeks
          it's different because you believe so..

          but if you read between the lines, why does pbf demand an OST after seeing how pac crushes cotto after taking cotto's best shot.. floyd Sr said it best in the interview after pac-cotto, he thinks pac is into something..

          pac not bowing to pbf's demand is not a ***** move, its to show pbf he can't demand anything from his opponent, all they need is compromise..
          No it's different because it's factually different. This has nothing to do with compromise or bowing to someone elses demands this is about proving you and your opponent are clean, Mayweather doesn't gain any sort of advantage by having additional testing so what's the problem?

          The only logical conclusion is Pacquiao is roiding or he doesn't want the fight.

          As for Floyds motivation about demanding the tests? Totally irrelevant as all Pacquiao has to do is accept the tests and prove he's clean then whoop Floyd but instead he's made a huge deal about the tests asking for cut off dates and what not, he just looks more guilty by the day. Take the tests and lets get the fight on, it's not hard it's a couple of needles @ random times.

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          • titan m
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            #25
            Originally posted by Castor_Troy
            Mayweather - Pacquiao is good to go until the TESTING DEmands..


            How simple can it be?


            Bert Sugar, Thomas Hauser and AL Bernstein share the same sentiments. Its all GO everything is agreed upon until....KABOOM!!!! yes Floyd demanded ADDITIONAL Testing Procedures..

            and now Hords of idiots are blaming Manny for not accepting it?????


            Yeah yeah penalties about the weight blah blah was demanded but if you're not an ignorant or a noob you will realize that this kind of stipulation was done before....Addional Blood Testing Demands of all of a sudden???? WTF?!!!

            i know this has been said before but when any athlete refuses drug testing they make themselves look su****ious. manny pacquiao is no different from any other athlete and before you start telling people they are ignorant noobs, maybe you should realize that its not the first time blood testing was requested.

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            • yeks
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              #26
              Originally posted by TEDetc
              No it's different because it's factually different. This has nothing to do with compromise or bowing to someone elses demands this is about proving you and your opponent are clean, Mayweather doesn't gain any sort of advantage by having additional testing so what's the problem?

              The only logical conclusion is Pacquiao is roiding or he doesn't want the fight.

              As for Floyds motivation about demanding the tests? Totally irrelevant as all Pacquiao has to do is accept the tests and prove he's clean then whoop Floyd but instead he's made a huge deal about the tests asking for cut off dates and what not, he just looks more guilty by the day. Take the tests and lets get the fight on, it's not hard it's a couple of needles @ random times.

              pac had a history on this random blood test.. he lost in his first fight with Erik Morales..

              he knows his body and have some kind of belief that it weakens him when taken so near before the final fight..

              pac agreed to take the test right after the bout.. what makes you think it would already be out of his system just after the 12th rnd bell rang? he just dont want to take any blood test when the fight is near..

              and floyd insist of his demand.. and the rest is history.. here we are debating about something that should have been one of the best fight of the century..

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                #27
                Originally posted by yeks
                pac had a history on this random blood test.. he lost in his first fight with Erik Morales..

                he knows his body and have some kind of belief that it weakens him when taken so near before the final fight..

                pac agreed to take the test right after the bout.. what makes you think it would already be out of his system just after the 12th rnd bell rang? he just dont want to take any blood test when the fight is near..

                and floyd insist of his demand.. and the rest is history.. here we are debating about something that should have been one of the best fight of the century..
                Then have a 7 day cut off date.

                What makes me think it'll be out of his system right after the bout? Simple, he'd Cycle the roids so that come fight night they won't be in his system anymore, it's very easily done even basic users know how to do it.

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                • yeks
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TEDetc
                  Then have a 7 day cut off date.

                  What makes me think it'll be out of his system right after the bout? Simple, he'd Cycle the roids so that come fight night they won't be in his system anymore, it's very easily done even basic users know how to do it.
                  how would it affect his performance then if its not on his system by fight night?

                  if he agreed on the 7 day cut-off and on the 6th day prior to the fight took it, would us boxing fans would be more happy? knowing that post fight test is not required based on their compromise.

                  i thought pbf sr said pac is into something during fight night..

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                  • TEDetc
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by yeks
                    how would it affect his performance then if its not on his system by fight night?

                    if he agreed on the 7 day cut-off and on the 6th day prior to the fight took it, would us boxing fans would be more happy? knowing that post fight test is not required based on their compromise.

                    i thought pbf sr said pac is into something during fight night..
                    LOL do you know how steroids work? They're used for training they affect his performance by giving him amazing muscle recovery/energy/protein synthesis while he's training allowing him to get far more out of his training than a clean person would.

                    Idk what you mean in your other paragraph......if he agreed to 7 day cut off and on the 6th day prior to the fight took it? Huh? Took what? the test? He wouldn't there's a 7 day cut off date....pretty confused.

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                    • yeks
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by TEDetc
                      LOL do you know how steroids work? They're used for training they affect his performance by giving him amazing muscle recovery/energy/protein synthesis while he's training allowing him to get far more out of his training than a clean person would.

                      Idk what you mean in your other paragraph......if he agreed to 7 day cut off and on the 6th day prior to the fight took it? Huh? Took what? the test? He wouldn't there's a 7 day cut off date....pretty confused.
                      if pac took the steroid you are saying 6 days prior to the fight because the cut-off has passed.. thats what i mean

                      steroid doesn't make you're inhuman that can take welter's best shot.. Sr claim pac's into somethng after the cotto annihilation.. keep clutching on straws..

                      and besides, pbf has his own issue.. xylocaine was a banned substance in boxing in some states and he is injecting it in his hands to prolong training and get ready for the big fight..

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