Adamek, Haye, Vitali, Wlad....and??

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  • Pullcounter
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    #21
    Originally posted by RicDaRula
    I dont buy that Adamek is too small stuff......I think he can hold his own vs bigger guys.....I still want that fight bad!!!
    nah man... he outboxed oreola, but it was a tough as hell fight. vitali made it look easy. adamek is gonna get pummeled by the K-sisters. its a mismatch.

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      #22
      Haye isn't even close to being on the level of a Klitschko brother, and as much as I'd LOVE to see Adamek be a force in the division, he doesn't have the power to be a force. He has decent pop, but honestly didn't you feel the whole time against Arreola he might get knocked out?

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        #23
        Originally posted by RicDaRula
        Nope....Adamek and Haye are right up there with them.....it's not until the Klits fight these two that it will go back to how you had it.....if they can beat them....that's why these fights need to happen!!
        Dude, they're really not. There's very little chance of the Klitschkos being beaten by anyone anytime soon.

        It's depressing thinking about it, but there's no point fooling ourselves.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          nah man... he outboxed oreola, but it was a tough as hell fight. vitali made it look easy. adamek is gonna get pummeled by the K-sisters. its a mismatch.
          You know it very well might be....but at this point that's the best the HW div has to offer....if not Haye or Adamek who????????I mean these tards gotta fight someone........

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            #25
            Originally posted by Pirao
            Of course they are untouchable, noone in the division can come even close to beating them. They have been cleaning out HW, and everytime someone new comes up it's just a matter of time they get a beatdown. Haye and Adamek have shown to be nowhere near either brother's level.
            Untouchable???dude not only are the Klits not untouchable......no one in boxing is.....**** happesn....ask Iron Mike before the Douglas fight if anyone is untouchable......hahaha but seriously.......Haye Adamek are it.....if not them then who?

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              #26
              Originally posted by RicDaRula
              Untouchable???dude not only are the Klits not untouchable......no one in boxing is.....**** happesn....ask Iron Mike before the Douglas fight if anyone is untouchable......hahaha but seriously.......Haye Adamek are it.....if not them then who?
              Right now they are, why do you think noone gives a shot at winning to their opponents? Look at the 3 posters above me, they all agree that Haye and Adamek are not on Klitschkos level. They're nice opponents for them, just like Mosley was for Mayweather, but they're no match for them, like Mosley was.

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                #27
                Originally posted by RicDaRula
                You know it very well might be....but at this point that's the best the HW div has to offer....if not Haye or Adamek who????????I mean these tards gotta fight someone........

                I guess, but I don't like to watch mismatches... I guess adamek deserves his shot.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Pirao
                  Right now they are, why do you think noone gives a shot at winning to their opponents? Look at the 3 posters above me, they all agree that Haye and Adamek are not on Klitschkos level. They're nice opponents for them, just like Mosley was for Mayweather, but they're no match for them, like Mosley was.
                  Ok well Ill give you that much....they are RIGHT NOW.....since there is no one to match up with them....alls im saying though is Adamek and Haye have the best chance out of any other HW to upset.....but I see your point......

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by RicDaRula
                    Untouchable???dude not only are the Klits not untouchable......no one in boxing is.....**** happesn....ask Iron Mike before the Douglas fight if anyone is untouchable......hahaha but seriously.......Haye Adamek are it.....if not them then who?
                    The Klitschko's arent like Mike Tyson, they train, they are intelligent, and they are cautious in the ring. They understand, "hey I could go crazy and head hunt, or I could just stand back and punch this guy in the face over and over and not take any risks." Granted Tyson didnt have the luxury of being over 6'6, but the point is the Klitschko's take boxing far more seriously than Tyson ever did. I wont get into an argument over whose better, natural gifts, heart etc...but from the moment a fight ends until the next fight, the Klitschko's are far more focused than Tyson ever was let alone when he fought Douglas. Floyd may train like he's poor, but the Klitschko's train like theyre in Soviet Russia competing for nationalistic pride and so there family members arent killed.

                    How can anyone put Haye and Adamek on the same level as the Klitshcko's. First of all Haye won his belt for beating Valuev...Valuev shouldnt even have had the belt. Chagaev also beat him and Wlad destroyed Chagaev. Adamek is a great fighter, but he showed againt Arreola that he doesnt have the power to stop a Klitschko, and his footwork was poor and a Wlad left hook would end him. Haye and Adamek are down on the same level as the Chambers, Chagaev's, povetkins etc...guys who are contenders, but arent champions. The Klitschko's own the HW division, its not even debatable. Haye and Adamek combined have like 7 hw fights and you want to put them on a level of guys who have 6x that many knockouts? I suppose you had it, Manny, Floyd, Valero, Berto and everyone else, because until Manny or Floyd beat Berto or Valero, theyre right up there, and its boxing, anything can happen............

                    Your logic makes no sense. Beating John Ruiz or Chris Arreola doesnt put you on the Klitschko's level.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PACK
                      The Klitschko's arent like Mike Tyson, they train, they are intelligent, and they are cautious in the ring. They understand, "hey I could go crazy and head hunt, or I could just stand back and punch this guy in the face over and over and not take any risks." Granted Tyson didnt have the luxury of being over 6'6, but the point is the Klitschko's take boxing far more seriously than Tyson ever did. I wont get into an argument over whose better, natural gifts, heart etc...but from the moment a fight ends until the next fight, the Klitschko's are far more focused than Tyson ever was let alone when he fought Douglas. Floyd may train like he's poor, but the Klitschko's train like theyre in Soviet Russia competing for nationalistic pride and so there family members arent killed.

                      How can anyone put Haye and Adamek on the same level as the Klitshcko's. First of all Haye won his belt for beating Valuev...Valuev shouldnt even have had the belt. Chagaev also beat him and Wlad destroyed Chagaev. Adamek is a great fighter, but he showed againt Arreola that he doesnt have the power to stop a Klitschko, and his footwork was poor and a Wlad left hook would end him. Haye and Adamek are down on the same level as the Chambers, Chagaev's, povetkins etc...guys who are contenders, but arent champions. The Klitschko's own the HW division, its not even debatable. Haye and Adamek combined have like 7 hw fights and you want to put them on a level of guys who have 6x that many knockouts? I suppose you had it, Manny, Floyd, Valero, Berto and everyone else, because until Manny or Floyd beat Berto or Valero, theyre right up there, and its boxing, anything can happen............

                      Your logic makes no sense. Beating John Ruiz or Chris Arreola doesnt put you on the Klitschko's level.
                      And what level would that be??? all these kats are fighting each other....it's not like the Klits beat some other fighters....they are all (including your beloved Klits) in the same meritocracy filled bag that is the HW Div...

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