RANDOM DRUG TESTING in the Super Six: why no discussion?

[And Still]

This is the super six...the best fighting the best...there is no ducking...and no one invents tests to avoid credible opponents.

The tests exist. What are you talking about "invent"? If you are just here to spout your *******ian nonsense, stay out of this thread.

[Rick Grimes]

So Kessler took A single random test before the froch fight? Can we have more details?

Was it one blood test or was it 15 blood and urine tests? Was it conducted by the Olympic Doping Agency or some other private source? How close before the actual fight did kessler give these tests? Is there some type of cutoff date?

I love how people assume this is the exact same **** floyd & shane went through...

Did you read the opening post?

Under the deal that Sauerland Promotions signed in Germany, all of their fighters must submit to WADA-style testing, conducted by the German equivalent of USADA. That means, quite simply, if you fight Arthur Abraham or Mikkel Kessler, you have to take random blood and urine tests.

[ИATAS]

Did you read the opening post?

Under the deal that Sauerland Promotions signed in Germany, all of their fighters must submit to WADA-style testing, conducted by the German equivalent of USADA. That means, quite simply, if you fight Arthur Abraham or Mikkel Kessler, you have to take random blood and urine tests.

Ok, can you provide details, specifically answer the questions I asked?

[BattlingNelson]

So Kessler took A single random test before the froch fight? Can we have more details?

Was it one blood test or was it 15 blood and urine tests? Was it conducted by the Olympic Doping Agency or some other private source? How close before the actual fight did kessler give these tests? Is there some type of cutoff date?

I love how people assume this is the exact same **** floyd & shane went through...

I think it was 4-5 days before the fight. It was an unannounced unscheduled test performed by the danish boxing federation. The danish federation is very much on it's toes due to Mads Larsen testing positive a short while ago.

[BattlingNelson]

Did you read the opening post?

Under the deal that Sauerland Promotions signed in Germany, all of their fighters must submit to WADA-style testing, conducted by the German equivalent of USADA. That means, quite simply, if you fight Arthur Abraham or Mikkel Kessler, you have to take random blood and urine tests.

Not true. This matters only to Sauerland fighters on Sauerland promoted cards.

[ИATAS]

I think it was 4-5 days before the fight. It was an unannounced unscheduled test performed by the danish boxing federation. The danish federation is very much on it's toes due to Mads Larsen testing positive a short while ago.

thanks a lot bat, that is the type of info I'm looking for.

Do you know if it was just one test or is that all you know?

The reason I'm obviously asking is that I think there is a difference between comparing a single test or two to the very stringent testing of the OST 15 or so blood & urine tests.

And just so you know I think what they're doing here in teh super six is great. I just don't want people to think it's the exact same thing as what floyd-shane did, because from what I can tell it's nothing like it (although I think it serves the same purspose and is just as efficient).

[Siggy]

Did you read the opening post?

Under the deal that Sauerland Promotions signed in Germany, all of their fighters must submit to WADA-style testing, conducted by the German equivalent of USADA. That means, quite simply, if you fight Arthur Abraham or Mikkel Kessler, you have to take random blood and urine tests.

dirrell and ward didnt

[Muradyan]

neither dirrell nor ward had to submit to OST.
this was touched upon prior to the dirrell/abraham fight in michigan.

Yea, still cant beleive Dirrell's team didnt want to bend to this.
Why the hell hasnt there been an investigation?
If Kessler/Abraham/Froch had to do it, why not those two?

[Muradyan]

if there's anyone I would have pegged for a roider.....Arthur Abraham.

He could be? I mean is not out of the question. He is taking the test but he could be on some untraceable stuff...

Now I don't think AA is doping. I give every athlete the benefit of the doubt until they get busted. But, if later we found out that he was it wouldn't surprise me.

It would not surprise me if any athlete and I mean any athlete even the one's who are taking the test are dirty. Just because that is the era that we live in.

Why would you guys suspect Arthur for a roider?
Just because a guy has a hell of a punch, you think hes on something?

Untraceable?
All cheaters get caught, idk if there is such a thing as untraceable roids, but if a guy takes his test and passes with ease, there shouldnt be any questions.

[BattlingNelson]

thanks a lot bat, that is the type of info I'm looking for.

Do you know if it was just one test or is that all you know?

The reason I'm obviously asking is that I think there is a difference between comparing a single test or two to the very stringent testing of the OST 15 or so blood & urine tests.

And just so you know I think what they're doing here in teh super six is great. I just don't want people to think it's the exact same thing as what floyd-shane did, because from what I can tell it's nothing like it (although I think it serves the same purspose and is just as efficient).

I think it was only this one test. At least as far as unannounced are concerned. There's obviously the post-fight test as always.

So it's definetely not a stringent series of tests at all. I think the keyword in all this is that fighters should be available for a random test at any time for it to have the desired deterring (spelling) effect.