Floyd being this good, yet not going for the kill = less PPV buys

[Pacquiao'd]

Personally, i dont really care to critique a guy whos strategy has worked for 41 fights. Him going for the "kill", sometimes its just not there. Its not like he didint try, but how many times has mosley been stopped? How about JMM? Sometimes its there, sometimes it isnt, floyd isnt that combination puncher anymore, thats just something you have to realize. Hes not that guy at 130/135

hes slipped. Hes lost some reflexes, hes lost some of his legs. Hes winning based on intelligence. I cant ask more of him than to try to put on a show to the best of his current ability.

people keep talking about him not stopping Shane but who has ever punished shane that badily?

floyd put some serious damage on shane. but at the same time, when you see that you are beating someone so easily that you have obviously admired and looked up to coming up through your career, are you going to want to see them get totally embarassed? prolly not.

but no point in entertaining these *******s. they will try anything they can to discredit

[-EX-]

He went for the kill...it isn't exactly easy to KO Shane Mosley...who's only been down ONCE ever...

[joeboy1983]

I anit gonna lie that was just tol long to read

[pbftxrs316]

So after all that...and yes I did read it....do you agree that if Floyd KOd JMM, and Mosley...his PPV buyd would be dramatically higher?

NOT REALLY---you want to know why? damn, i had made another post that wasn't half as long as my last one, and my damn mother's laptop is so retarted, it erased it----man, i made some more good points--i'm pissed man--lol---i hate her laptop---

anyway, thanks for reading it, even thoughi had had more i put and actually completed my points----i do appreciate you reading it---

getting back on point here---i don't really think it would have made a huge difference in sales, you know why---because after he beat gatti the way he did, his next ppv sales with judah weren't that high, maybe they did a tad bit more, so i see your point that way, i'm just saying, his overall character brings in ppv buys, maybe even more than his fighting style---people will criticze him either way, whether he knocks the guy out, he was too small and he didn't knock him out faster than such and such did---or had he knocked mosley out, which he could have and almost had ****m throw in the towel, the fight with manny wouldn't do more numbers, because it won't matter---floyd has made himself such and name in the sport, his mouth brings in numbers anyway---that's why he's so good---because as dominant as he is in the ring, you're absolutely right, people do crave ko's---especially casual fans---but because floyd is so good at talking fans into a fight and still putting on a great performance---whether he ko's the guy or not, most people pay to see him lose anyway---so as long as he keeps winning, there's alway that other guy they give the best chance to----this is what makes floyd that much more special---and 24/7 always helps---media coverage always helps---people know who floyd is now---and all he has to do is keep talking his **** and backing it up, and he values his 0 so much, that's his favorite number excpet for when it comes to money----lol----he values the 0 so much, that he'll fight as if he hasn't made a dime in his life, and fight smart, and never let the crowd dictate his style, he fights the way he knows how, and is comfortable with---which is why he'll always be so effective and damn near impossible to defeat---he doesn't stray away from his true self---he fights the way he wants to fight---so he keeps that 0, and like you posted earlier, he's that dam good---that dominant in doing this---not always crowd pleasing but, what does that matter when people pay to see him lose anyway right? that's his power in the sport---

[Pullcounter]

He went for the kill...it isn't exactly easy to KO Shane Mosley...who's only been down ONCE ever...

nasim was gonna stop the fight. all floyd needed to do was put together 4-5 punch combos or increase his output.

[pbftxrs316]

I anit gonna lie that was just tol long to read

nothing is ever too long to read---when you were in school---did you read long novels or had to read books for a class---or college or something like that---you put what i thougt people on here would put---my post being too long and i had more that i put, but my computer started acting up and i didn't feel like posting it again, i forgot what i put in---but anyway, it's your choice not to read it, but it wasn't too long to me---you're entitled to not read it, but why post that it was too long---why not just not read it and be done with it? i know it was a long post---i've made long ass posts many times on here and people said it was too long to read them---i took it as them not being able to argue against me, with anything that could top that---i'm not saying that here of course, i'm just saying...lol---but, you have every right to not want to read it----but you didn't have to tell me you found it too long---geez---now i'm crying kiddo---you happy now?lol

nah' just kidding with you---i did have more though---i wanted to break it down more, but my computer keeps acting up--well, my mom's laptop keeps acting up and it would have taken me all day to break it down, and i would have forgotten many points i wanted to discuss with you guys and gals---

sorry though for the long post---bare with me man--this computer sucks---lol

[fightfan_79]

nasim was gonna stop the fight. all floyd needed to do was put together 4-5 punch combos or increase his output.

I agree with that Pull....the way ****m was talkin....IF Floyd could've put together a couple of SHARP combos together.....SHARP not HARD.....I 100% would agree that ****m would've stopped the fight....

[fightfan_79]

people keep talking about him not stopping Shane but who has ever punished shane that badily?

floyd put some serious damage on shane. but at the same time, when you see that you are beating someone so easily that you have obviously admired and looked up to coming up through your career, are you going to want to see them get totally embarassed? prolly not.

but no point in entertaining these *******s. they will try anything they can to discredit

*******????? What's that???? Is that someone who puts a picture up of a fighter they love/hate on their profile????

And who is discrediting? This is a conversation between grown men about "going in for the kill" = more action = more PPV buys......no need to throw names out there to discredit fans of the sport.

[Boxin']

floyd's lack of power does negatively affect his ppv status.

floyd can easily overcome his lack of power by putting together 4-5 punch combos once he's figured out his opponent. I see no reason for floyd to continue with potshots and 2 punch combos once he's thoroughly discouraged his opponents. If you totally outclass your opponent, you should be able to stop them. If floyd puts on gatti like beatings all the time, he wouldn't get so much flak.

Floyd doesn't want to get hit back.

It's way safer to throw 1 or 2 ounches than a 4-5 punch combo.

[fightfan_79]

Floyd doesn't want to get hit back.

It's way safer to throw 1 or 2 ounches than a 4-5 punch combo.

And that is the whole point.....Floyd, back in the lighter weights...was able to throw the 4-5-6 hit combos (the combo to Gatti from face -> body -> face -> body was bee-you-tee-full), but because they hit harder in the WW division, combine that with Floyd's view of "ain't nothing cool about getting hit".....and we now have the current version of Floyd the boxer....as opposed to Floyd the fighter.

I was one of Floyd's biggest critics and haters...but after Sat...there is no reason for ANYONE to hate on the man....if the "casual" fan expects more from Floyd...then yes they will generally be disappointed, but to boxing purists...his fight with Shane was a work of art....

Remember...the "casual fan(s)" are the ones who are responsible for the PPV #s going thru the roof....