Has Manny Pacquiao ever fought anyone with fast handspeed?

[Xyei]

I can agree with you to a point but what I want you to understand (Because you seem to be the only person here who isn't just trying to troll me) is that yes Zab had greater handspeed than Marquez and Barrera yes, but that doesn't mean that they had zero handspeed either. It's on obvious sentiment on this board that Pac has never fought anyone with anykind of handspeed because all his past fights happened to be against Hispanic fighters. What i'm trying to point out is that Barrera and Marquez had solid handspeed and exceptional technical ability that made them twice as dangerous as Judah ever could dream to be no matter how fast his hands were. So in otherwords just because Floyd fought a flawed Judah and an old Mosely does not mean he has taken on anyone who was anymore dangerous than the fighters tha Pac fought in the past.

If anything Floyd and Pac have resume's that are almost indentical to each other when it comes to finding adequette challangers.

I agree with what you're saying. Marquez and Barrera definitely are not slow. I don't think the TS was trying to say "Floyd is better because he has fought faster handed fighters." I think he was just asking who he fought that was super fast because he thinks that Floyd's speed could give Pac problems. That's all. If we were going to compare resumes, I'd give the edge to Pac and I'm a pretty avid Mayweather fan. I'm a Pac fan too but I'll be rooting for Floyd if they fight.

And being faster and slicker doesn't autimatically make you're more dangerous. Barrera and Marquez are both more well rounded than Zab and thats my point, speed can be an illusion at times.

Are you really gonna tell me a flawed Judah would be able to go anymore than 6 rounds with a just as fast and much more skilled pacman?

Absolutely. I understand what you're saying but that's not what this thread is about, really. I can see how you took it that way but Kev isn't really a troll type poster. AT least not from what I've seen of him.

And hell no, Judah is nowhere near as well rounded as Barrera or Marquez. If I was a boxer, I'd much rather have Marquez's boxing skills, counter punching ability and ring smarts than simply having Zab's blinding speed, which only wins him the first 4 rounds.

[^^Cody^^]

prime Barrera had fast hands, he was one of the best combination punchers

Pacquiao didn't fight "PRIME" Barrera, dumbass. This thread isn't titled "Name all the boxers you can with fast hands." Pac fought an over-the-hill on the way out Barrera.

[fats]

So then your point here is that just because Pac hasn't faced any "slick" (equated to black) opponents doesn't mean that his Hispanic foes were any less dangerous then the ones that Mayweather faced, then.

[Xyei]

So then your point here is that just because Pac hasn't faced any "slick" (equated to black) opponents doesn't mean that his Hispanic foes were any less dangerous then the ones that Mayweather faced, then.

I don't think that's what he's saying at all. He's simply asking that because Manny has never really faced anyone who rivals him in speed, will it be a problem when/if he fights Mayweather? Pac is still faster than Floyd but Floyd would definitely be the fastest fighter Pac has ever faced. Marquez, who is not as fast as Floyd gave Pac all he could handle so will a faster, and equally skilled, if not better counter puncher give Pac problems?

At least that's the way I took it.

[TheGreatA]

Pacquiao didn't fight "PRIME" Barrera, dumbass. This thread isn't titled "Name all the boxers you can with fast hands." Pac fought an over-the-hill on the way out Barrera.

Barrera was over-the-hill in 2003?

[PH|L]

Pacquiao didn't fight "PRIME" Barrera, dumbass. This thread isn't titled "Name all the boxers you can with fast hands." Pac fought an over-the-hill on the way out Barrera.

You can really tell the ****ing Pac haters have no clue about boxing. Pac fought Barrera when he was p4p#3 and the lineal FW champion. MAB was coming off the most impressive win streak of his career douchebag.

Pacquiao completely dominated Barrera from start to finish. A true ATG performance.

[deanrw]

Speed is deceptive. Some guys can appear slower, but just have that perfect timing and cannot miss. Angles, accuracy and timing can be so important.

With Floyd and Manny. If they fight each other, handspeed will only be a moderate factor. Timing and footwork will be so important for both of them.

Both of them have fast hands and can deliver short fast punches. That fight will be all about maintaining punching range for both of them.

[F l i c k e r]

When has Floyd fought anyone with great handspeed himself? Other than a 39 year old mosley. And before you say Judah how much hand speed does one have when they lose to a plodding journeymen named Baldomir.

Zab Judah has fast hand speed.

Judah just lacks mental strength and heart. If he gets down on himself, he loses.

I don't see how you can possibly discredit Judah's speed. That's a fail for you sir.

[Seleção No. 13]

Pacquiao didn't fight "PRIME" Barrera, dumbass. This thread isn't titled "Name all the boxers you can with fast hands." Pac fought an over-the-hill on the way out Barrera.

A 28 year old Barrera with a 6 fight winning streak after his defeat from Morales was not prime?

[F l i c k e r]

So then your point here is that just because Pac hasn't faced any "slick" (equated to black) opponents doesn't mean that his Hispanic foes were any less dangerous then the ones that Mayweather faced, then.

This shows how close minded you are.


Joel Casamayor - Cuban
Joan Guzman - Dominican


Two guys he could have faught instead of David Diaz who didn't even earn the belt he got. He was awarded it after they stripped Casamayor of his belt. So who was the real champion at that time? Casamayor, whom Pacquiao could have faught but decided against. So he could fight a stylistically favoring match up, whom wasn't going to be a challange to him what-so-ever.