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  • GT-R
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    #11
    Originally posted by thephantom5
    To soon to know the real #'s.

    Kevin lole is an idiot.
    early numbers are exaggerated. itll be less than initial reports.

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    • mines a pasty
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      #12
      Originally posted by Chuckguy
      And once again a poster claims no one will ever buy a FLoyd PPV again until the next time ladies and gentlemen when FLoyd fights again and pulls in yet another 1 mill plus PPV buys
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      Who cares who has the bigger PPV numbers and who cares who gets the bigger purse the truth is this fight is huge because "both" fighters make it huge.

      Seriously how can either side argue for more than 50% of the pie when neither fighter would make no where near the ammount fighting anyone else.

      Does it really matter to us the fans how much either fighter is making as long as the fight actually happens?

      If it didn’t matter would Mayweather talk about it all the time?

      It doesn’t matter a jot to me, or to you either i suspect, but to Floyd it seems to matter an awful lot, he talks about it so often. Fact is, if these numbers are true then he’s not the PPV king he claims to be.

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        #13
        Originally posted by GT-R
        early numbers are exaggerated. itll be less than initial reports.
        I'm not a big numbers guy, but quoted for bumpage later.

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          #14
          I have never heard of a PPV numbers coming out after 3 days.

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          • el malo
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            #15
            That means two NON American boxers, fighting IN America, pulled in more PPV figures than the TOP TWO active American fighters today.
            true story if those numbers are right.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #16
              Originally posted by mines a pasty
              And that is by no means a certainly, but if they are, then 1.2M is pretty disappointing, you can see why Richard Schaefer quit as a banker, did he not mention 3/4M?!

              Anyway, I’m veering off my point...

              Ok, so Manny v Cotto did 1.4M that’s 0.2M more than the proposed figure Floyd v Mosely did.

              That means two NON American boxers, fighting IN America, pulled in more PPV figures than the TOP TWO active American fighters today.

              That tells me one thing; Manny is the PPV draw of boxing, and im referring to the ‘post-Oscar’ Manny.

              In fact, both Floyd and Manny owe Oscar a lot on that score, Oscar MADE THEM BOTH PPV stars.

              But yes, in a nutshell, I fail to see how Floyd could justify the numbers, if they are correct.

              man, if floyd/mosley doesn't double pac/cotto that is sad considering that mosley is a big name in the sport and all the hype and promotion going into the fight. but I'mma wait until the final numbers come out before i comment on the implications...

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              • Don Crusto.
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                #17
                Originally posted by ИATAS206
                IF those numbers are correct, it should be 50/50 imo.
                Both fighters should get 50-50 regardless. We have a classic stalemate here,there are no more interesting fights for them that are going to sell big numbers and both are wealthy enough to shrug and walk away. If Floyd cant sell more than 1.2 mil against another American superstar,and with all the stops being pulled out in terms of promotion,then how the hell are they gonna sell a fight against anyone else.

                From a business point of view,they need to get this done as the longer they leave it now,the less enthusiasm there will be for it. Its ripe now,and needs to happen if they want to max out the money they can get,which should mean career high earnings for both.

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                • GT-R
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                  I'm not a big numbers guy, but quoted for bumpage later.
                  am i right tho? when has an initial PPV number report ever exceeded final numbers?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by thephantom5
                    To soon to know the real #'s.

                    Kevin lole is an idiot.
                    He was the first to report that Mayweather/Marquez did a mil.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mines a pasty
                      And that is by no means a certainly, but if they are, then 1.2M is pretty disappointing, you can see why Richard Schaefer quit as a banker, did he not mention 3/4M?!

                      Anyway, I’m veering off my point...

                      Ok, so Manny v Cotto did 1.4M that’s 0.2M more than the proposed figure Floyd v Mosely did.

                      That means two NON American boxers, fighting IN America, pulled in more PPV figures than the TOP TWO active American fighters today.

                      That tells me one thing; Manny is the PPV draw of boxing, and im referring to the ‘post-Oscar’ Manny.

                      In fact, both Floyd and Manny owe Oscar a lot on that score, Oscar MADE THEM BOTH PPV stars.

                      But yes, in a nutshell, I fail to see how Floyd could justify the numbers, if they are correct.
                      It doesn't work that way.

                      Boxing is a fringe sport in America, and boxing galvanizes different groups.

                      In Manny/Cotto, you get
                      boxing fans, latinos (pr), asians

                      In Floyd/Marquez, you get
                      boxing fans, urban, latinos (m)

                      in Manny/Clottey, you get
                      boxing fans, asians

                      In Floyd/Shane, you get
                      boxing fans, urban


                      The thing to keep in mind is that the Latino audience is one of the great strongholds of the sport. Thus, why you had Boxeo del Oro, and the Latin Fury cards. Why HBO is trying to build Angulo and had put on an Angulo/Arreola card.

                      It is said that Manny Pacquiao has crossover appeal. But did you see the crowd at Cowboys Stadium? Where was the crossover? Did you see the crowd at Jimmy Kimmel? It was monolithic.

                      Manny Pacquiao just gets every last one of a certain group. There are many Filipino households in America. ALL of them buy Pac fights. The cultural allegiance is greater with Pac than it is with any other fighter and their fanbase.

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