how come Ali can call himself the greatest after 19 fights, but floyd cant after 41??

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  • JudeTheObscure
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    #11
    Ali is the Greatest Of All-Time for reasons that go beyond boxing skill. Floyd is the most scientific, technical boxer ever- in this case, he is the greatest. Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Jack Johnson- all of them are amongst the greatest too, but all under a certain context. Ali's rights transcend sports, and he and Joe Louis, Johnson, etc. all went through harsh experiences that no modern boxer, Floyd or otherwise, will ever have to go through.

    Anyway, let people say what they want, because people can believe what they want. I'm sure Ali and Floyd know the truth, and thats good enough for me.

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    • TheGreatA
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      #12

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      • Ben_London
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        #13
        Originally posted by TheGreatA

        0:15
        Great post, owned the thread.

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        • Rick Grimes
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          #14
          C'mon get real, Floyd is not greater than Ali.

          Originally posted by Ben_London
          Ali considered Robinson to be the best ever, read Robinson's book.
          Ali said Robinson was the greatest P4P, but he was the greatest boxer ever.

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          • dans
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            #15
            Originally posted by carlos slim
            dont listen to these old white guys telling you that bull****...these are the same people back in alis time who thought he was a loudmouth overratted no good beat up old small guys as well....i have watched over 70 years of boxing and the best fighters are: joe louis 1930s, robinson 1950s, ali 1960s, duran 1970s, tyson/hagler/leonard 1980s, roy jones 90s and floyd 2000s....i could care less what any boxing "expert" thinks....
            This is actually a very interesting and good point.

            Just take a look at Bert Sugar for example. He'll rate old fighters higher because of the glorification of boxers past.

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            • PensionKiller
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              #16
              Ali was a good bench mark, damn hard to beat.

              TBH mroe set higher bench marks before him, but he is actually damn great.

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              • KILLA RIGHT
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                #17
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                ali beat liston who was the baddest mofo at the time.
                He called himself the greatest before the liston fight and before he was even close to becoming a great fighter... He didn't even believe he was the greatest, he always said srr was. I'ts just to piss people off or get them talking about them

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                • Ben_London
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mr. Blobby
                  C'mon get real, Floyd is not greater than Ali.



                  Ali said Robinson was the greatest P4P, but he was the greatest boxer ever.
                  Watch the video above and read Robinson's autobiography.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by carlos slim
                    dont listen to these old white guys telling you that bull****...these are the same people back in alis time who thought he was a loudmouth overratted no good beat up old small guys as well....i have watched over 70 years of boxing and the best fighters are: joe louis 1930s, robinson 1950s, ali 1960s, duran 1970s, tyson/hagler/leonard 1980s, roy jones 90s and floyd 2000s....i could care less what any boxing "expert" thinks....
                    He didn't just say he was the greatest, he went on to prove it by taking on everyone.

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                    • Chups
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                      #20
                      AT the sight of Robinson during one of his fights....ALI bowed down several times to SRR suggesting his greatness. Ali did say he's the greatest but actually he isn't......it's Robinson.

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