Still no real reason why Pac needs to take any tests

[flour]

Without blood testing there is the POTENTIAL that someone could be on PED's. I like pac, not as much as i like mayweather, but i like him. You cant not like him being a boxing fan, because hes so god damn exciting. His fans just ruin him for me. Having said that, if pacquiao has nothing to hide why wouldnt he just take the ****** tests. Theres no sceince behind him being weak after taking them. Also a victory over floyd, when the world knows that without a doubt pac is clean, would be even sweeter for pac, his fans, and his camp. So why wouldnt the fans support it too? Is it just because some of them are drones, and just regurgitate anything pac says? I.E. "Mayweather isnt the boss of the sport, we dont have to do what he says." If they really wanted to fight him so badly i would think they would take the tests just to throw it in his face, thats the way i would approach it anyway. And if they agree, and mayweather throws another clause at them, then hes afraid. I say this because they [pac and his camp] have also said that the only reason why mayweather is demanding the drug testing is because hes afraid.

relax, the only PEDs or Performance Enhancing Drugs that blood test for is HGH which has been shown to decrease your stamina when HGH levels are up to 100 times normal level be it because of injection of artifical HGH or an overproduction of the natural HGH produce in the body, in fact when one is treated and stop using HGH or are put through medical treatment that decreases their HGH level to "normal level for an average man", their stamina or endurance improves
logically, then athletes who use inject or use artificial/supplemental HGH far beyond normal levels could actually hurt their physical activity tolerance and actually hurt their athletic performance
thus you have to ask yourself.. did i just get robbed off the fight of the century by a known ducker who masquerade as a drug crusader because of some measly DRUG i know pac can't have use since he's a freak of nature in the ring? you can see mayweather doesn't want this fight at all
here have a read at this to see the proof of everything i am saying about HGH by "annals of medicine" which is an organization establish in 1927 by the american college of physicians

http://www.annals.org/content/148/10/747.long

everything ive said above is further backed by danish institute of sports medicine who found that cyclist of good health and endurance and they need that to ride and finish 110 mile per day races like tour de france, were unable to complete accustomed cycling task( riding up mountains nonstop when they usually can) after they were injected with HGH
they have come to the logical conclusion that HGH does gasses you

proof of what i said above is found in the british journal of sports medicine at this link here http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...v037p00100.pdf

you can put down your pitchfork now



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[bmoffitt18]

Where did they use those tests?

Oh yea,

the OLYMPICS.

Olympic Style Drug Testing.

What part don't you get about that?

HEY ASSWHIPE. You tried this in another thread and someone shut you the **** down. The tests they were using werent testing for the drug that she was using. The NEW USADA tests that they used for shane and floyd are better, they catch PED's/ key word being new.

[pasawayako]

floyd has a reason. he needs pac to be weak at fight night. just look at my sig and you will find the answer.

[roughred]

yeah . mosley was weak . it makes you wonder if floyd acutally
did the same tests.

[pasawayako]

yeah . mosley was weak . it makes you wonder if floyd acutally
did the same tests.

nope floyd only been tested 7 times while 8 on mosley.

[swizz]

nope floyd only been tested 7 times while 8 on mosley.

oh wow big difference so where is your source for how many times they were tested

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

relax, the only PEDs or Performance Enhancing Drugs that blood test for is HGH which has been shown to decrease your stamina when HGH levels are up to 100 times normal level be it because of injection of artifical HGH or an overproduction of the natural HGH produce in the body, in fact when one is treated and stop using HGH or are put through medical treatment that decreases their HGH level to "normal level for an average man", their stamina or endurance improves
logically, then athletes who use inject or use artificial/supplemental HGH far beyond normal levels could actually hurt their physical activity tolerance and actually hurt their athletic performance
thus you have to ask yourself.. did i just get robbed off the fight of the century by a known ducker who masquerade as a drug crusader because of some measly DRUG i know pac can't have use since he's a freak of nature in the ring? you can see mayweather doesn't want this fight at all
here have a read at this to see the proof of everything i am saying about HGH by "annals of medicine" which is an organization establish in 1927 by the american college of physicians

http://www.annals.org/content/148/10/747.long

everything ive said above is further backed by danish institute of sports medicine who found that cyclist of good health and endurance and they need that to ride and finish 110 mile per day races like tour de france, were unable to complete accustomed cycling task( riding up mountains nonstop when they usually can) after they were injected with HGH
they have come to the logical conclusion that HGH does gasses you

proof of what i said above is found in the british journal of sports medicine at this link here http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...v037p00100.pdf

you can put down your pitchfork now



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Limitations: Few studies evaluated athletic performance. Growth hormone protocols in the studies may not reflect real-world doses and regimens.

and again

Study Selection: Randomized, controlled trials that compared growth hormone treatment with no growth hormone treatment in community-dwelling healthy participants between 13 and 45 years of age.


Systematic Lit Review search FAIL!

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

TS, stick to fighting tortillas. U suck as a pacq apologist and defender.

[flour]

Limitations: Few studies evaluated athletic performance. Growth hormone protocols in the studies may not reflect real-world doses and regimens.

and again

Study Selection: Randomized, controlled trials that compared growth hormone treatment with no growth hormone treatment in community-dwelling healthy participants between 13 and 45 years of age.


Systematic Lit Review search FAIL!

you fail that is a notice warning to say they might not actually emulate doses of real life athletes users.. do u know why? because no1 else will ever really know how much HGH users use today and wat doses cus most of them dont tell you you ****** ***

YOUR BRAIN FAILS YOU when u cant grasps science

BY THE WAY.. here's a convo done by a reporter after the galvan institute of medical research did a study on HGH YET AGAIN in clinical trials over a period of 8 weeks in february of 2010.. 2 years after HGH clinical study you ******ed quoted for ***** purposes..




New research has revealed that the human growth hormone drug – often taken by athletes to gain a competitive edge, has no impact on strength or endurance and the drug’s impact is restricted to sprinting.
Transcript
TRACY BOWDEN, PRESENTER: Elite athletes prepared to cheat to gain a competitive edge have been known to take a ****tail of banned substances, including human growth hormone, or HGH. Despite plenty of anecdotal evidence, up until now there's been no scientific proof of its impact. Now a study at Sydney's Garvan Institute has found for the first time that HGH significantly improves athletic performance. But as I discovered, the research shows that the drug's impact is restricted to sprinting, with no effect on strength or endurance.

Geoff Webster is working up a sweat in the name of science. He's among a group of recreational athletes who volunteered to take part in a study at Sydney's Garvan Institute into the impact of human growth hormone on athletic performance.

GEOFF WEBSTER, VOLUNTEER: I had to give myself injections once a day, self-inflicted, so to speak, and then I had to come in here for an hour or week for a range of testing.

JEN EVANS, CLINICAL NURSE, GARVAN INSTITUTE: I think they had the same question that we had: will it enhance their performance.

SCOTT ANDREWS, VOLUNTEER: The drugs are always ahead of the testing procedures and we need to give a level playing field to all the athletes.

TRACY BOWDEN: Growth hormone is produced naturally in the body. Synthetic HGH can be prescribed to children with growth disorders or adults with deficiencies in the hormone. But so far there's been no proof that the substance gives athletes a competitive edge.

KEN HO, GARVAN INSTITUTE OF MEDICAL RESEARCH: Your sporting community believes that growth hormone bulks muscles and in doing so improves performance. However, there has been no scientific evidence to support that.

TRACY BOWDEN: Nonetheless, HGH has been a favourite amongst elite athletes for more than two decades.

PETER LARKINS, SPORTS & EXERCISE PHYSICIAN: I'm talking about '88 Olympic Games, I'm talking about '92 Olympic Games. And so I think that there's no question that it has been one of the most popular drugs in the select group at the very top end.

TRACY BOWDEN: Sports and exercise physician Dr. Peter Larkins is a former Olympic athlete and past national president of Sports Medicine Australia.

PETER LARKINS: It's certainly useful in almost any sport you could name, but arguably, the strength sports are where we're gonna go, because again if we're talking about muscle size, so anything that involves you moving the muscles or having some extra strength would be appealing.

TRACY BOWDEN: From swimmers to tennis players to kickboxers, a series of athletes have been found in possession of HGH. In 2007, Hollywood actor and muscle man Sylvester Stallone was charged with illegally importing HGH into Australia.

JOURNALIST (2007): What was in your luggage at Sydney Airport?

SYLVESTER STALLONE, ACTOR (207): A giant cheetah.

KEN HO: We observed a four per cent improvement in sprint capacity.

TRACY BOWDEN: Study leader Professor Ken Ho is being filmed for the website of the international journal 'Annals of Internal Medicine' which has published his findings. The results have captured global attention, especially the claim that HGH can turn losers into winners.

KEN HO: This could translate to a 0.4 second improvement over 10 seconds in the 100 metre dash. Enough to turn a last-place getter in an Olympic final to a medal winner, a gold medal winner.

TRACY BOWDEN: But the research doesn't support the widespread view that the drug improves strength.

KEN HO: What we found was that growth hormone had no effect on endurance nor the ability to pull on a weight or to jump.

RYAN LAOS, BODY BUILDER: I have seen the difference it can make.

TRACY BOWDEN: Ryan Laos was the first Australian to win the natural Mr World body building competition. He says he has no interest in competing with the help of banned substances, but says there are plenty of athletes who feel differently.

RYAN LAOS: Other people just want to win and they will do anything to win. They'll do anything to increase their value as an athlete.

TRACY BOWDEN: This latest research suggests that it can be helpful for speed, but not necessarily for power. Now do you think if people using it heard that it would make them think twice or do they'd just go with what works for them?

RYAN LAOS: I think they would go with what works for them and what they've heard from their friends and what they've read on the internet. Sometimes science can lag behind in what the general public may know through trial and error.

TRACY BOWDEN: Earlier this year, British rugby league player Terry Newton was suspended for two years after returning the first ever positive test for HGH. Now in Australia, both the NRL and the AFL have introduced testing.

PETER LARKINS: I think it's extremely important that the professional leagues are shown to be doing the correct thing. So if there's a drug that's out there that they know has a potential benefit, even if they don't think there's anyone using it, it behoves them to actually do the test.

KEN HO: We used a dose of growth hormone at the low end of what is belief to be abused out there and we treated our volunteers for only eight weeks. Therefore, it is conceivable and bigger doses for a longer duration of time may uncover other benefits which were not evident from our study.

TRACY BOWDEN: Dr Larkins says it's vital to take into account the difference between the levels of HGH used in this study and those used by cheating athletes.

PETER LARKINS: You've got to really look and see whether the tests that are done in a laboratory, Tracy, reproduce what the athletes are doing in the real world. Sometimes the athletes will look at the medical amount that's recommended on a drug and they'll use 10 or 20 times that amount.

TRACY BOWDEN: But Professor Ho is convinced that some athletes using HGH are wasting their time.

KEN HO: If they do read our report, those engaging in sprint events will know that they will have an advantage, but those engaging in other types of sporting events should throw their syringes into the bin.

more and more studies r coming out the the same pattern holds true.. the theory is proven.. HGH IS USELESS.. and so r u..

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2890301.htm
YOUR MOMMA FAILED YOU T

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

you fail that is a notice warning to say they might not actually emulate doses of real life athletes users.. do u know why? because no1 else will ever know through existence since most HGH dont actually say theyre on it and how much dose they use


YOUR BRAIN FAILS YOU when u cant grasps science

BY THE WAY.. here's a convo done by a reporter by a reporter after the galvan institute of medical research did a test on HGH in 2010.. 2 years after the study u ******edly quoted..




New research has revealed that the human growth hormone drug – often taken by athletes to gain a competitive edge, has no impact on strength or endurance and the drug’s impact is restricted to sprinting.
Transcript
KEN HO: If they do read our report, those engaging in sprint events will know that they will have an advantage, but those engaging in other types of sporting events should throw their syringes into the bin.
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YOUR MOMMA FAILED YOU THATS WHY YOUR BRAIN IS GOO

uh oh, kiddie alert.


Kid u just supported me highlighting the limitations of the review YOU quoted and cited.

The u quote someone contradicting themselves by saying hgh doesnt help strength but does help sprinting. I wonder where sprinters get the speed from?

And for my brain to be goo, I sure do have a pretty good grasp on medicine son. Now go surf the net again so I can undress u some more.