Still no real reason why Pac needs to take any tests

[flour]

uh oh, kiddie alert.


Kid u just supported me highlighting the limitations of the review YOU quoted and cited.

The u quote someone contradicting themselves by saying hgh doesnt help strength but does help sprinting. I wonder where sprinters get the speed from?

And for my brain to be goo, I sure do have a pretty good grasp on medicine son. Now go surf the net again so I can undress u some more.

good graps on medicine lmao.. thats a good one you couldnt grasp a pile of poo if ur life depended on it as your brain keeps failing you with your inability to grasp the studies and their notice of saying they might not actually emulate the dosage of real life athletes since no real life athlete will snitch on himself and you thinking somehow the study is limited..brain fail!, the newest study is pretty clear as ken ho said there's no benefit to anyone other than sprinters ... if only because there's a 4% benefit in a span of 10 seconds where somehow u willl gain a 0.004 edge in speed..you ****** ***..i saw how u deleted tat part for your ***** knob licking purposes.. lmao.. i can tell you this 4 sure, you are definitely grasping floyds **** in ur mouth, you ***** u just hungry for some floyd **** huh and wanna undress me now? ***** please take that **** to your daddy and undress him since floyd is not around lmao kidding me

U JUST GOT OWNED BY A KIDDIE... ur momma failed you for sure
LMAO
BRAIN FAIL


read it and weep

[TheSituation]

Where did they use those tests?

Oh yea,

the OLYMPICS.

Olympic Style Drug Testing.

What part don't you get about that?

Here we are, approaching the 9th page,

and still,

no reason why Pac needs to cater to anyones demands.

Just a bunch of ramblings about this and that, but nothing about why Pac needs to test further. I can see the case for Mosley, hes an admitted and known steroid user.

But why Pac?

Could it be

KO2 Hatton
TKO12 Cotto

?

Before then,

the closest anyone here ever got to muttering Pac and PEDs in the same sentence was, well,

nowhere.

You are a COMPLETE IDIOT AND A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME. Your asking a question in a way that no matter what we answer can be rebuttled. At the end of the day like imdazed said theres no reason for anyone to do anything accept breathe and drink and eat to stay alive.

The question should'nt be why should he take the test or why should he cater to demands, it should be why is this test not already mandatory for every fight. At some point in time things change in sports, you get guys in baseball hitting 60 homeruns a year with regularity and knowledgable fans get su****ious, so what happend there testing wasnt being done and then at the end of the day we find out that all those big home run hitters for the most part were taking steroids. So now we have a small little guy running through opponents like cake walk so what happens the KNOWLEDGEABLE fans get su****ious, so who you ask does Manny Pacquiao have to answer to well he has to answer to us the fans, its not like Floyd is the only one who ever brought this up, he was'nt the first and won't be the last. If you really love boxing you would'nt be catering to your own personal fanhood of one boxer but to the sport itself. This would be a megafight and what better way to create a trend than in a fight of such huge proportions. Im not saying Pacquiao is on anything but i also cant say im not baffled by certain outcomes. Is it really that big of a deal to take this test. Would it really hurt. All the excuses ive heard are elementary with no substance.

Why Manny Pacquiao, well with all this money you make, with all this fame, with all this power, should come a social responsibility no??
And its not like Floyd would not hold himself to the same standard.

Manny, with huge power comes huge responsibility, so be responsible.

If you have nothing to hide, then stop hiding.

Im done.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

good graps on medicine lmao.. thats a good one you couldnt grasp a pile of poo if ur life depended on it as your brain keeps failing you with your inability to grasp the studies and their notice of saying they might not actually emulate the dosage of real life athletes since no real life athlete will snitch on himself and you thinking somehow the study is limited..brain fail!, the newest study is pretty clear as ken ho said there's no benefit to anyone other than sprinters ... if only because there's a 4% benefit in a span of 10 seconds where somehow u willl gain a 0.004 edge in speed..you ****** ***..i saw how u deleted tat part for your ***** knob licking purposes.. lmao.. i can tell you this 4 sure, you are definitely grasping floyds **** in ur mouth, you ***** u just hungry for some floyd **** huh and wanna undress me now? ***** please take that **** to your daddy and undress him since floyd is not around lmao kidding me

U JUST GOT OWNED BY A KIDDIE... ur momma failed you for sure
LMAO
BRAIN FAIL


read it and weep

lmao. wat a ***ing classic post. this kid "owned" me. "pawned" me.

[flour]

lmao. wat a ***ing classic post. this kid "owned" me. "pawned" me.

lmao look at you you dont know wat to say anymore like a clueless undigified lil ***** whos typing "lmao" as some kind of consolation prize after he got owned, you r a disgrace to all men, you r a ******/lady

go cook in the kitchen and cook me food


now laugh again like the lady u r that got undress by a kid verbally.. OWNED


b4 u do that... read some of these

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2890301.htm

Study lifts lid on human growth hormone in sport

Print

Australian Broadcasting Corporation

Broadcast: 04/05/2010

Reporter: Tracy Bowden

New research has revealed that the human growth hormone drug – often taken by athletes to gain a competitive edge, has no impact on strength or endurance and the drug’s impact is restricted to sprinting.
Transcript
TRACY BOWDEN, PRESENTER: Elite athletes prepared to cheat to gain a competitive edge have been known to take a ****tail of banned substances, including human growth hormone, or HGH. Despite plenty of anecdotal evidence, up until now there's been no scientific proof of its impact. Now a study at Sydney's Garvan Institute has found for the first time that HGH significantly improves athletic performance. But as I discovered, the research shows that the drug's impact is restricted to sprinting, with no effect on strength or endurance.

Geoff Webster is working up a sweat in the name of science. He's among a group of recreational athletes who volunteered to take part in a study at Sydney's Garvan Institute into the impact of human growth hormone on athletic performance.

GEOFF WEBSTER, VOLUNTEER: I had to give myself injections once a day, self-inflicted, so to speak, and then I had to come in here for an hour or week for a range of testing.

JEN EVANS, CLINICAL NURSE, GARVAN INSTITUTE: I think they had the same question that we had: will it enhance their performance.

SCOTT ANDREWS, VOLUNTEER: The drugs are always ahead of the testing procedures and we need to give a level playing field to all the athletes.

TRACY BOWDEN: Growth hormone is produced naturally in the body. Synthetic HGH can be prescribed to children with growth disorders or adults with deficiencies in the hormone. But so far there's been no proof that the substance gives athletes a competitive edge.

KEN HO, GARVAN INSTITUTE OF MEDICAL RESEARCH: Your sporting community believes that growth hormone bulks muscles and in doing so improves performance. However, there has been no scientific evidence to support that.

TRACY BOWDEN: Nonetheless, HGH has been a favourite amongst elite athletes for more than two decades.

PETER LARKINS, SPORTS & EXERCISE PHYSICIAN: I'm talking about '88 Olympic Games, I'm talking about '92 Olympic Games. And so I think that there's no question that it has been one of the most popular drugs in the select group at the very top end.

TRACY BOWDEN: Sports and exercise physician Dr. Peter Larkins is a former Olympic athlete and past national president of Sports Medicine Australia.

PETER LARKINS: It's certainly useful in almost any sport you could name, but arguably, the strength sports are where we're gonna go, because again if we're talking about muscle size, so anything that involves you moving the muscles or having some extra strength would be appealing.

TRACY BOWDEN: From swimmers to tennis players to kickboxers, a series of athletes have been found in possession of HGH. In 2007, Hollywood actor and muscle man Sylvester Stallone was charged with illegally importing HGH into Australia.

JOURNALIST (2007): What was in your luggage at Sydney Airport?

SYLVESTER STALLONE, ACTOR (207): A giant cheetah.

KEN HO: We observed a four per cent improvement in sprint capacity.

TRACY BOWDEN: Study leader Professor Ken Ho is being filmed for the website of the international journal 'Annals of Internal Medicine' which has published his findings. The results have captured global attention, especially the claim that HGH can turn losers into winners.

KEN HO: This could translate to a 0.4 second improvement over 10 seconds in the 100 metre dash. Enough to turn a last-place getter in an Olympic final to a medal winner, a gold medal winner.

TRACY BOWDEN: But the research doesn't support the widespread view that the drug improves strength.

KEN HO: What we found was that growth hormone had no effect on endurance nor the ability to pull on a weight or to jump.

RYAN LAOS, BODY BUILDER: I have seen the difference it can make.

TRACY BOWDEN: Ryan Laos was the first Australian to win the natural Mr World body building competition. He says he has no interest in competing with the help of banned substances, but says there are plenty of athletes who feel differently.

RYAN LAOS: Other people just want to win and they will do anything to win. They'll do anything to increase their value as an athlete.

TRACY BOWDEN: This latest research suggests that it can be helpful for speed, but not necessarily for power. Now do you think if people using it heard that it would make them think twice or do they'd just go with what works for them?

RYAN LAOS: I think they would go with what works for them and what they've heard from their friends and what they've read on the internet. Sometimes science can lag behind in what the general public may know through trial and error.

TRACY BOWDEN: Earlier this year, British rugby league player Terry Newton was suspended for two years after returning the first ever positive test for HGH. Now in Australia, both the NRL and the AFL have introduced testing.

PETER LARKINS: I think it's extremely important that the professional leagues are shown to be doing the correct thing. So if there's a drug that's out there that they know has a potential benefit, even if they don't think there's anyone using it, it behoves them to actually do the test.

KEN HO: We used a dose of growth hormone at the low end of what is belief to be abused out there and we treated our volunteers for only eight weeks. Therefore, it is conceivable and bigger doses for a longer duration of time may uncover other benefits which were not evident from our study.

TRACY BOWDEN: Dr Larkins says it's vital to take into account the difference between the levels of HGH used in this study and those used by cheating athletes.

PETER LARKINS: You've got to really look and see whether the tests that are done in a laboratory, Tracy, reproduce what the athletes are doing in the real world. Sometimes the athletes will look at the medical amount that's recommended on a drug and they'll use 10 or 20 times that amount.

TRACY BOWDEN: But Professor Ho is convinced that some athletes using HGH are wasting their time.

KEN HO: If they do read our report, those engaging in sprint events will know that they will have an advantage, but those engaging in other types of sporting events should throw their syringes into the bin.


while ur crying u can jerk off to mayweather cus everyone knows thats wat *****s do.. lmao


ur brain is full of ****cheese u dont know ***** to say

ur my ***** and i have only 1 command 4 u.. *** ur daddy have a nice day lmao

[icebergisonfire]

roach is one of the cleanest guys in the sport of boxing
its a shame the mayweathers have to stoop so low man ...

Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDs
Posted Mar. 12, 2010 at 11:06am

By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!
DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

Reason enough, once is a coincidence, twice is a trend. Top Rank is run by unethical thugs.

[maguirre]

"Still no real reason why Pac needs to take any tests"

That's the truth. Reason based on fabricated lies started by no less than Floyd Sr is no reason at all.

These fools keep pretending how they want to see boxing cleaned up.

Did they even care whether there was OST demand in last night's fight. None.
Zero. Nada.

[cixthree]

B

3 responses,

still not a single reason why Pac needs to take any tests that aren't required by

sanctioning bodies
athletic commissions


Can anyone give at least an attempt at trying to state a valid reason why a test needs to take place?

I can see why a test was needed for Mosley,

but what reasons does Pac have to be tested for?

Because that's the only way to fight Floyd now. If you want to fight Floyd, you must prove you're clean.
Roach, Pac and all these people keep saying they want him. But Floyd has a rule now, if you want to fight me, we both undergo gold stadard drug tests.

Does that answer ur question?

[icebergisonfire]

"Still no real reason why Pac needs to take any tests"

That's the truth. Reason based on fabricated lies started by no less than Floyd Sr is no reason at all.

These fools keep pretending how they want to see boxing cleaned up.

Did they even care whether there was OST demand in last night's fight. None.
Zero. Nada.

We know he doesn't give a **** about cleaning up boxing, but if I'm getting in the ring with another boxer, I want the best test possible to prove that both fighters are clean. Are you willing to seriously argue that the NASC testing is better than the USADA's? If so, please pm me your address so I can undercut whatever your dealer's price is.

[cixthree]

So, Pac don't HAVE to take the test really. But to fight Floyd he does. Any fighter or fight Floyd has from now on, that's the rule & pac can do 1 of 3 things now.
1. Test and prove he's clean by giving us the same performances we've seen recently.
2. Not test and stain his history.
3. **** off, no test, no fight so stop screaming Floyds name.

Water based EPO can be flushed out in as little as 3 days. NSAC gonna catch that?

[barafranca]

So, Pac don't HAVE to take the test really. But to fight Floyd he does. Any fighter or fight Floyd has from now on, that's the rule.

Water based EPO can be flushed out in as little as 3 days. NSAC gonna catch that?

No, theres no rule about it.

*****s should stop with ***riding and claiming Floyd is bigger than the sport