Mosley could have been the greatest boxer of this era easily

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  • BOLLOCKS
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    #21
    Originally posted by Flawless*
    But it came to haunt him when he fought bigger opponents like Winky and Forrest
    Aye, he's no Duran.

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    • hookoutofhell
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      #22
      shane has all the physical attribute as you mentioned (spee, power, chin etc) including a good work ethic, a natural athleticms and the ability to go 12 hard rnds.

      agree that jack mosleys ill thought out 'power boxing' meant that shane never really learned anything different. the style of power boxing is fine when you are quick enough to wind up your power shots and still land them (like mosley was) but at some point in time you have to develop the other aspects of your game.

      this is something in floyd that ****m spotted when he said that you don't get to the level of floyd by being one dimensional. i think ****m has tried to get ssm to box more but shane is 38 yrs old now and its too late for him to change, ****m was telling him to box and land his combo's but shane simply doesn't do that.

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      • Famoso Matador
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        #23
        Originally posted by Flawless*
        If Mosley choose to box his career instead of brawling

        Look at his physical attributes first. He is 5’9 and his reach is 74. That is a pretty good reach and height. Mosley has very quick hands and power, and a great chin. If Mosley was brought up to box his whole career, I would been hard to name a boxer who could beat him.
        I agree, If Mosley had been brought up by a better trainer (like mayweather with a boxing family) he would be a completely different fighter.

        If I remember right Mosley senior trained Shane from the start and he had no knowledge of how to train a boxer, he got his training techniques from boxing instructional videos.

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        • gqjohnb
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          #24
          Originally posted by ALPHAΩMEGA
          mosley never had the skillset to be the greatest fighter of this era. guys like him and jermaine taylor aren't/weren't great boxers. they where gifted athletically and that's about it.
          I think people have this idea that everybody and anybody can be a great all around boxer but there's a reason we haven't seen complete fighters like floyd often if at all. It takes a certain aptitude to do it like that. Floyd can train hard, talk ****, go on press tours, go shopping(lol who does that while in training camp???), and still be focused and handle business in the ring to damn near perfection. Not everybody can do that even with great training.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Flawless*


            Mosley easily has the longer reach
            yep. Like i said, I agree it was a typo.

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            • gqjohnb
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              #26
              Not to say floyd isn't better trained than Shane but Shane's style goes with his demeaner.

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                #27
                PBF has a near perfect balance of Patience and aggression. He is never too aggressive and rarely too patient.

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                • gqjohnb
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                  #28
                  Saying the only thing that kept shane from being a great boxer was his training is false IMO. Remember in school when some kids just caught on Algebra quicker than others. I remember because I was one of those kids and I didn't have my parents practicing math problems with me at the crib and they weren't mathmeticians either. Some people just have a higher aptitude than others in certain things and boxing is no exception. Being a great boxer is not just about your reach and handspeed.

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                  • poeticlsykuac
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by gqjohnb
                    Saying the only thing that kept shane from being a great boxer was his training is false IMO. Remember in school when some kids just caught on Algebra quicker than others. I remember because I was one of those kids and I didn't have my parents practicing math problems with me at the crib and they weren't mathmeticians either. Some people just have a higher aptitude than others in certain things and boxing is no exception. Being a great boxer is not just about your reach and handspeed.
                    Yes boxing is all about training. If you train to be light on your toes throw more jabs it will become natural, if your taught to stand in and exchange then that is what you will do. You don't change that after 20 plus years of training that style. Mosley wasn't taught that stuff, his dad wasn't a boxing trainer, he was someone who read books and studied tapes. Mayweather was learning combinations at age 4. Mosley just wasn't brought up to be a boxer. You learn to be a boxer, it doesn't just come naturally. His dad could have taught him a lot more about defense, but he didn't. Shane was a offensive dynamo but had no defense that is his trainers fault.

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                    • gqjohnb
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
                      Yes boxing is all about training. If you train to be light on your toes throw more jabs it will become natural, if your taught to stand in and exchange then that is what you will do. You don't change that after 20 plus years of training that style. Mosley wasn't taught that stuff, his dad wasn't a boxing trainer, he was someone who read books and studied tapes. Mayweather was learning combinations at age 4. Mosley just wasn't brought up to be a boxer. You learn to be a boxer, it doesn't just come naturally. His dad could have taught him a lot more about defense, but he didn't. Shane was a offensive dynamo but had no defense that is his trainers fault.
                      So you believe Floyd is the only guy who's been trained at a young age?? and I never said being a boxer comes naturally what I said was not everyone has the aptitude to be a great boxer at this level.

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