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  • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
    i noticed that jim lampley and larry merchant were playing good cop bad cop last night. lol. jim was on floyds sack while larry was overly hating on floyd... i found it pretty funny... dude, merchant looked like his world crashed before his eyes when floyd won. lol.

    roger gets plenty of credit, but floyd jr. is his only notable fighter...
    ****m richardson worked with at least 2 elite fighters.
    roach worked directly & indirectly with a list of fighters: manny, oscar, tyson, toney, moorer, amir, etc.

    i would easily rate emmanuel steward over roger anyday...
    dont judge a trainer by using 1 fighter as an example... you have to look at their entire body of work, and ALL the fighters they trained.

    plus, at this point... floyd jr could be trained by roger's 5yr old son and still win. floyd jr already has a system that he follows impeccably.... its just a matter of doing mitt work and pep talks in the corner. LOL.
    Larry Merchant was hatin hard. Talkin bout he only knew 3 people that picked Mosley. Is that why the Who R U Picking polls we're virtually dead even and a lot of them mosley was the favorite. It's just like Floyd said after the Baldomir fight. Every time Floyd fights Larry Merchant is crossing his fingers hopin that floyd will lose. And then he tried to bring up all the undefeated fighters I mean why wont they just fire that guy. I'm not a big fan of Max Kellerman but I can stomach him.

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    • Oscar's words smelled beef IMHO.

      Dunno if it's towards Pac or scumbag Arum.

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      • Originally posted by bazil82 View Post
        how did that happen seriously?
        Honestly, I don't know how it happened but I tell you one thing.
        It is on with ANY Pac fans who want it on Boyingscene. Aside from
        me Ginsu'N them up with the truth, I'm going to let Pac, Freddie and
        Arum bury themselves and put the nail in the coffin.

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        • Look at this guy de la hoya! It is clear he is still sore at Pacman for forcefully retiring him from the ring!

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          • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            There should be no 14 day cutoff. They should go by what the USADA says, period.
            Don't worry, after the success of this fight with Floyd and Mosley
            the USADA will most likely compy with everything. Then what will
            Manny "ROIDMENOW" Pacquiao do?

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              If Floyd would have fought Margarito and Cotto back then I
              think they would have got the business worse than Mosley
              did last night. I always laughed when people said Floyd ducked
              Cotto and Margarito! Hialrious to say the least. Cotto barely
              beat Mosley with Jack as his trainer. Margarito got stomped
              by Shane with ****m in his corner. Floyd dominates Mosely
              with ****m in his corner. Like I said, I NEVER thought Cotto
              and Margarito was good enough to have a fighter like Floyd
              duck them. Respect to Cotto for letting it hang and no
              props for Margarito's attempt to deceive and cheat. Mosley
              was a tough fight for one and beat the other and Floyd toyed
              with Shane after awhile. Manny Pacquiao is in a tough situation.
              Either agree to floyd terms of random testing or be labeled as
              a ducker and a possibly enhancement user. That's not me
              talking from a personal aspect but from an overall one. Manny
              made his bed and now has to lie in it! He gave up all of his
              negotiation power by listening to the bitter old Bob Arum and
              fighting Clottey instead of Floyd. WRONG MOVE & BAD BUSINESS
              DECISION.
              dude, exactly!!! manny needs new management because he's getting played... i honestly think arum and his stand-offish attitude ruined the fight... common sense says pacquiao isnt scared of floyd... why would he be??? the issues seems to be about ego, money, & posturing. biggest mistake was to let the deal with floyd slip when it was 50/50.

              the moment pac/clottey was signed, i think majority of people knew that was a bad BUSINESS decision....

              even though most feel floyd wouldve beat cotto & margarito anyway, it still doesnt negate the fact it didnt happen... i would have loved to see floyd have those names on his resume.

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              • Can ANYONE intellegently explain to me why Floyd needs to bow down at the negotiating table to Manny after the performance that he displayed last night? He completely DOMINATED Shane, in greater fashion than Manny dominated Clottey. The PPV #'s when they finally come in, are sure to be astronomical(remember Shane wasn't a draw......right?). I say if Manny doesn't agree to no cut-off date for the RANDOM blood testing, then NO fight. And Manny can just go through the Top Rank stable of fighters. As far as I'm conserned Floyd can now fight whomever he wants. He has earned it.

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                • Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
                  dude, exactly!!! manny needs new management because he's getting played... i honestly think arum and his stand-offish attitude ruined the fight... common sense says pacquiao isnt scared of floyd... why would he be??? the issues seems to be about ego, money, & posturing. biggest mistake was to let the deal with floyd slip when it was 50/50.

                  the moment pac/clottey was signed, i think majority of people knew that was a bad BUSINESS decision....

                  even though most feel floyd wouldve beat cotto & margarito anyway,
                  it still doesnt negate the fact it didnt happen... i would have loved to see floyd have those names on his resume
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                  Me too! No debates, if, ands or buts there but Arum didn't want
                  to committ to Floyd's demands and get him the Oscar fight when
                  he wanted it. Floyd went and did it himself so can't say Floyd
                  ducked them considering he was ready but just wanted the right
                  deal and $. It's more business than anything.
                  Last edited by GRUSTLER; 05-02-2010, 02:42 PM. Reason: Correction.

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                  • Originally posted by Chief2ndzOnly! View Post
                    Can ANYONE intellegently explain to me why Floyd needs to bow down at the negotiating table to Manny after the performance that he displayed last night? He completely DOMINATED Shane, in greater fashion than Manny dominated Clottey. The PPV #'s when they finally come in, are sure to be astronomical(remember Shane wasn't a draw......right?). I say if Manny doesn't agree to no cut-off date for the RANDOM blood testing, then NO fight. And Manny can just go through the Top Rank stable of fighters. As far as I'm conserned Floyd can now fight whomever he wants. He has earned it.
                    To real boxing fans he has earned it. To the haters and pac fans there is nothing that he can do to satisfy them.

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                    • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      Me too! No debates, if, ands or buts there but Arum didn't want
                      to committ to Floyd's demands and get him the Oscar fight when
                      he wanted it. Floyd went and did it himself so can't say Floyd
                      ducked them considering he was ready but just wanted the right
                      deal and $. It's more business than anything.
                      arum f**ks everything up. he knows he is losing the promotional game to GBP... he's trying to make as much money off of his stable and let his fighters cannibalize each other.... shame on you arum. LOL

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