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  • GoogleMe
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    #111
    Pacquiao have fought Floyd's left overs more then once.

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    • tusc1976
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      #112
      Originally posted by -GDS-
      Arum thinks Berto isn't ready? What kind of #ull**** is that? Arum isn't Berto's promoter, what does he care? It's not as if Pac hasn't caught fighters slipping in the past. Marg's the easier fight for Pac and a TR guy so he'll get the fight. BS, but I'm sure some will defend it.
      As much as I dislike the old goat....he's right!
      Despite berto's power and speed, the man has tooo many weaknesses and flaws! Berto has no defense, no movement, no footwork, no jabs, no patience...well, you catch my drift.

      It's one thing to beat up on a has-been who's on his way out...but why ruin a young man who's just getting started who needs to get himself together..
      Mayweather or Pacquiao would have a field day with Berto.

      He's going to need a new trainer to shape him up while he's still young!

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      • jltsmae
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        #113
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        The thing that
        has me baffled about Pac is that, it took Manny 10 rounds of
        pounding on David Diaz to drop him at 135 but at 145, Pac was
        dropping and whupping Cotto's ass. I don't know if Margarito
        cheated with Cotto or Manny is on PEDS but why can't Manny
        just take the tests and prove to everyone that he is clean?
        I don't think Manny doesn't want to take the test. It is the way Floyd wants it with the USADA as if Manny is really on Peds that USADA testing has to be imposed. Anyway, if Manny will agree with the test, comes clean and lost to Floyd, it still does not justify that he is not roiding (if he really is) with his previous fights right? so what is the point of the test to prove that he is clean? It would even add insult to injury if people will say that Manny lost to Floyd because he is not roiding as per his previous fights and think even more that Pac's previous victory is because of PEDS. Got the picture?

        Honestly, I believe in Floyds skills and talent to beat Pac even if Pac is really roiding but the problem is that Floyd does not. Do you think Floyd can not beat Pac IF, let say, Pac is on ROIDS?
        Last edited by jltsmae; 05-01-2010, 01:08 PM.

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        • -GDS-
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          #114
          Originally posted by tusc1976
          As much as I dislike the old goat....he's right!
          Despite berto's power and speed, the man has tooo many weaknesses and flaws! Berto has no defense, no movement, no footwork, no jabs, no patience...well, you catch my drift.

          It's one thing to beat up on a has-been who's on his way out...but why ruin a young man who's just getting started who needs to get himself together..
          Mayweather or Pacquiao would have a field day with Berto.

          He's going to need a new trainer to shape him up while he's still young!
          Berto has flaws, and I do think he needs a new trainer, but that's still Bull on Bob Arum. Arum isn't Berto's promoter. Berto's flaws are not his concern. Berto would be both a more meaningful and tougher fight for Pac than Marg, and that will be one of the reasons Marg gets the fight over him.

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          • jltsmae
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            #115
            Originally posted by GoogleMe
            Pacquiao have fought Floyd's left overs more then once.
            And marquez is not Pac's left over? Is it not that Shane is a left over of Cotto who was badly beaten by Pac? So confusing huh!

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            • tusc1976
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              #116
              Originally posted by -GDS-
              Berto has flaws, and I do think he needs a new trainer, but that's still Bull on Bob Arum. Arum isn't Berto's promoter. Berto's flaws are not his concern. Berto would be both a more meaningful and tougher fight for Pac than Marg, and that will be one of the reasons Marg gets the fight over him.
              Berto would be more meaningful than Margarito because he has a belt but he wouldn't be tougher opponent...don't thinks so. Pac's people shouldn't even consider fighting Marg.
              If Berto had clottey's defense..hell, if he just had good defense to begin with then he would give pacquiao some trouble but for now pacquiao would counter him to death. Pacquiao's promoter certainly needs to forget about margarito and go after the winner of mayweather/mosley which is the only fight that would make sense both business wise and entertainment wise!
              Last edited by tusc1976; 05-01-2010, 01:39 PM. Reason: typo

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              • -GDS-
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                #117
                Originally posted by tusc1976
                Berto would be more meaningful than Margarito because he has a belt but he wouldn't be tougher opponent...don't thinks so. Pac's people shouldn't even consider fighting Marg.
                If Berto had clottey's defense..hell, if he just had good defense to begin with then he would give pacquiao some trouble but for now pacquiao would counter him to death. Pacquiao's promoter certainly needs to forget about margarito and go after the winner of mayweather/mosley which is the only fight that would make sense both business wise and entertainment wise!
                Underrating Marg is saying he has two dimensions instead of one. As long as Roach watches Marg wrap his gloves, Pac would wail on Marg. Wouldn't be close. TR might pretend to have a B.S. neogiation with Mayweather if he wins, but as soon as Marg beats whoever he's fighting May 8th, they'll drop out of talks and sign a fight with Marg in two days. The contract is probably being typed up right now.

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                • GRUSTLER
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by jltsmae
                  I don't think Manny doesn't want to take the test. It is the way Floyd wants it with the USADA as if Manny is really on Peds that USADA testing has to be imposed. Anyway, if Manny will agree with the test, comes clean and lost to Floyd, it still does not justify that he is not roiding (if he really is) with his previous fights right? so what is the point of the test to prove that he is clean? It would even add insult to injury if people will say that Manny lost to Floyd because he is not roiding as per his previous fights and think even more that Pac's previous victory is because of PEDS. Got the picture?

                  Honestly, I believe in Floyds skills and talent to beat Pac even if Pac is really roiding but the problem is that Floyd does not. Do you think Floyd can not beat Pac IF, let say, Pac is on ROIDS?
                  If Manny Pacquiao took the tests and passed then no one will be
                  able to say anything about him being on roids because......

                  1. Manny has never been caught doing anything illegal to gain an
                  advantage, so everything up until now is just speculation. For him
                  to take the tests and come out clean will help his career and legacy
                  then not doing it and leaving a "?" on his name.

                  2. Manny taking the test would rule out that he was cheating and
                  give everyone the fight that WE want to see. Who cares about
                  anything else as a boxing fan? If that is what is needed to make
                  the fight happen, then why can't he just do it? shane did and he
                  is an admitted cheater. Floyd agreed to an unheard of 10MIL over
                  the 147LB limit.

                  3.Why do we have to speculate if Pac is on roids or not? If I was
                  Floyd and thought, felt or heard that there is a possibility that Manny
                  could be on some sort of enhancement then I would request a test too.
                  WE have to remember that WE don't know what goes on behind the
                  scenes in the sport of boxing. If Manny would have just said "NO" to
                  the tests, then fine BUT to make up so many excuses not to take
                  the test is suspect AND if I am Floyd, I would not step in the ring
                  with anyone if I wasn't confident that they were playing on a even
                  field.

                  Just imagine if people took the time out to check thoroly
                  the Resto-Collins fight? Or Cotto's people thoroly check
                  Marg and paid attention before the fight happened? We
                  would not be unsure whether or not Marg cheated for
                  Cotto. Bottomline is, Manny, should just take the tests
                  and proved the world what hard work is about and try to
                  shut up Floyd Mayweather Jr! On that note. Can't wait
                  till the fight tonight Mayweather/Mosley.

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                  • GRUSTLER
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by -GDS-
                    Underrating Marg is saying he has two dimensions instead of one. As long as Roach watches Marg wrap his gloves, Pac would wail on Marg. Wouldn't be close. TR might pretend to have a B.S. neogiation with Mayweather if he wins, but as soon as Marg beats whoever he's fighting May 8th, they'll drop out of talks and sign a fight with Marg in two days. The contract is probably being typed up right now.
                    Unfortunately you may be right. I think Bob Arum just
                    doesn't want to risk losing to Floyd Mayweather Jr OR
                    just working with him period.

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                    • badecisioncotto
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                      #120
                      no it does'nt! that cat is not going to fight any of these guys,period.

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