Clottey would be great against mosley than what he did against pac right?

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  • fightfan_79
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    #11
    Originally posted by dibzvincent143
    IMO. what do you think guys?
    Mosley would go the distance.....and get a UD win. Clottey would take more chances against Shane for the fact that Shane doesn't have the workrate and throws the punches at those odd angels.

    And to answer your question....no. He wouldn't have been great against Shane, but Clottey's stock would've been higher if he fought Shane BEFORE fighting Pacquiao. But its too late for that.

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      #12
      Originally posted by intoccabile
      Mosley get's lost, EASY. Mosley would NOT punch at Clotteys guard, that's a given. ANyone who has follows mosleys career knows he holds back his punches when he can't find anything to throw that.

      He also throws WIDE, and gets hit easily. Cotto is a much harder fight for clottey than Mosley is IMO.
      The biggest thing missing from Mosley's arsenal is a good jab, it is not stiff enough. But I would go with the history of both fighters and even when Mosley lost he kept comming and it is something I have never seen by Clottey. We can agree to disagree but I see your points

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        #13
        Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
        The biggest thing missing from Mosley's arsenal is a good jab, it is not stiff enough. But I would go with the history of both fighters and even when Mosley lost he kept comming and it is something I have never seen by Clottey. We can agree to disagree but I see your points
        IMo The clottey who showed up against Cotto and Margi, even Pacman (though he couldn't get off, with or without the runs)

        Is a much better fighter than the Vargas who fought Mosley Twice and the Mayorga who mosley looked incredibly stale against.

        Judging by Mosleys loss against Cotto and Clotteys arguable win, there's also an even better discussion there.

        I just think people are giving mosley too much credit for the Margi win. Actually look at his last 5 years in the game. Vargas ,Vargas, Collazo, Cotto, Mayorga, Margi.

        Outside of Margi and Collazo, when has mosley actually looked good? He's been a very stale fighter who can't seem to find his rhythm in the ring, but at least makes the valiant effort.

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          #14
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Clottey would try to quit against Shane.




          This right here. Clottey woudn't go the distance with Mosley. the people claiming Clottey would do so well against Mosley are mostly Pacquaio fans trying to come up with a way to say Clottey is a tougher opponent than Mosley.
          Last edited by Calilloyd; 04-30-2010, 01:17 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by intoccabile
            IMo The clottey who showed up against Cotto and Margi, even Pacman (though he couldn't get off, with or without the runs)

            Is a much better fighter than the Vargas who fought Mosley Twice and the Mayorga who mosley looked incredibly stale against.

            Judging by Mosleys loss against Cotto and Clotteys arguable win, there's also an even better discussion there.

            I just think people are giving mosley too much credit for the Margi win. Actually look at his last 5 years in the game. Vargas ,Vargas, Collazo, Cotto, Mayorga, Margi.

            Outside of Margi and Collazo, when has mosley actually looked good? He's been a very stale fighter who can't seem to find his rhythm in the ring, but at least makes the valiant effort.
            But case in point Mosley has lost only to Cotto in a close decision but has beat everybody else. The dude wins even if it not pretty or you think that the fighter was over the hill. Clottey has lost every big fight he has been in the same way. I do like Joshua but when he fight the top level he is competitive but can't pull the win out

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              #16
              Originally posted by intoccabile
              IMo The clottey who showed up against Cotto and Margi, even Pacman (though he couldn't get off, with or without the runs)

              Is a much better fighter than the Vargas who fought Mosley Twice and the Mayorga who mosley looked incredibly stale against.

              Judging by Mosleys loss against Cotto and Clotteys arguable win, there's also an even better discussion there.

              I just think people are giving mosley too much credit for the Margi win. Actually look at his last 5 years in the game. Vargas ,Vargas, Collazo, Cotto, Mayorga, Margi.

              Outside of Margi and Collazo, when has mosley actually looked good? He's been a very stale fighter who can't seem to find his rhythm in the ring, but at least makes the valiant effort.

              At one point Mosley/Clottey was going to materialize but Clottey complained about money and it never got made

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                #17
                Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                But case in point Mosley has lost only to Cotto in a close decision but has beat everybody else. The dude wins even if it not pretty or you think that the fighter was over the hill. Clottey has lost every big fight he has been in the same way. I do like Joshua but when he fight the top level he is competitive but can't pull the win out
                With the exception of cotto (which i believe he won)

                the step ups were volume punchers who kept him in that shell. Margi and Pacman.. I think fights like Judah and Cotto proved that it's not fast hard punches that keep him shy, but volume.. as proven with margi and pac.

                Unfortunately, i think the only thing shane would bring is hard punches.. he'd look slower than usual because he'd be trying to find ways to exploit the guard. He just gets so stale lately, it bothers me.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Calilloyd
                  This right here. Clottey woudn't go the distance with Mosley. the people claiming Clottey would do so well against Mosley are mostly Pacquaio fans trying to come up with a way to say Clottey is a tougher opponent than Mosley.
                  Pacman would lose horribly to Floyd IMO,
                  and Mosley is lucky if he even gets CLOSE to winning a round against floyd IMO.


                  and I'm saying Clottey beats Mosley. So, your point is very wrong.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dibzvincent143
                    IMO. what do you think guys?
                    clottey just doesn't throw enough punches. he's a gatekeeper

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by intoccabile
                      IMo The clottey who showed up against Cotto and Margi, even Pacman (though he couldn't get off, with or without the runs)

                      Is a much better fighter than the Vargas who fought Mosley Twice and the Mayorga who mosley looked incredibly stale against.

                      Judging by Mosleys loss against Cotto and Clotteys arguable win, there's also an even better discussion there.

                      I just think people are giving mosley too much credit for the Margi win. Actually look at his last 5 years in the game. Vargas ,Vargas, Collazo, Cotto, Mayorga, Margi.

                      Outside of Margi and Collazo, when has mosley actually looked good? He's been a very stale fighter who can't seem to find his rhythm in the ring, but at least makes the valiant effort.


                      In case you have forgotten Mayorga was much bigger than Mosley. So was Vargas And Mosley knocked both cold. So what do you mean "when has Mosley looked good outside of Collazo and Mayorga? "And unlike Clottey both of those fighters fight to win every round. These triangle theory's don't work anyway. I could just as easily say Clottey stopped trying to win in each fight he faced some adversity. And he would face plenty of against Mosley.

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