The Matchup All You Fools Have Been Waiting For!

[BoxingFanFirst]

I think the problem is his age. You spar with him because he's that good and you want to give the kid a chance but at the same time because of his age, you dont respect him. I dont think a guy like Pac can get in the ring and take it seriously because he's 17. On the ropes its like Pac didnt even want to hit him. If he sparred Floyd I bet Floyd would just be clowning the whole time also because he's a kid, even though he's good enough to be treated like a real vet.

I understand that. It's hard to tell what he was really doing. How hard was he really trying. In a real fight, would he just sit on the ropes? If so then Benavidez kos him, but I doubt pac stays on the ropes, although he has before.

I looked at it two ways. Pac was just letting him get his confidence up, or he didnt care enough to try hard. Either way, I think it would have been more beneficial to actually try and get him some legitimate experience, or else that sparring session was meaningless.

[etlux]

I understand that. It's hard to tell what he was really doing. How hard was he really trying. In a real fight, would he just sit on the ropes? If so then Benavidez kos him, but I doubt pac stays on the ropes, although he has before.

I looked at it two ways. Pac was just letting him get his confidence up, or he didnt care enough to try hard. Either way, I think it would have been more beneficial to actually try and get him some legitimate experience, or else that sparring session was meaningless.

1. looks like pac wasn't trying at all. i.e. no motivation

2. pac is in between fights right now so obviously he's not in training so his stamina etc is obviously not gonna be peak

[DLT]

That right hook that Pac lands at 2:24 is the ****. Thats whats been killing all his opponents lately. Can you believe that? A right hook is Pac's like #1 punch now. A few years ago he didnt even have a right hand at all. Its not just a good hook with power but he's like a student now. He times your ass with it and never misses. He's ****in everyone up with it. Again, I think its a huge advantage to be Southpaw so it makes that punch harder to stop and it hurts alot more when it lands but he's got that **** down pat now.

If Floyd beats Mosley and him & Pac get it on. I cant wait to see how Pac's right hook matches up with Floyd's speed, timing, and smarts. Pac times it and throws it with great velocity but Floyd will think he can get the jab in before Pac lands the hook, he will think that he can still get his straight right in which is the #1 punch against a Southpaw, and he will think that he can out hook Pac with it. That single thing could decide the whole match.

[etlux]

That right hook that Pac lands at 2:24 is the ****. Thats whats been killing all his opponents lately. Can you believe that? A right hook is Pac's like #1 punch now. A few years ago he didnt even have a right hand at all. Its not just a good hook with power but he's like a student now. He times your ass with it and never misses. He's ****in everyone up with it. Again, I think its a huge advantage to be Southpaw so it makes that punch harder to stop and it hurts alot more when it lands but he's got that **** down pat now.

If Floyd beats Mosley and him & Pac get it on. I cant wait to see how Pac's right hook matches up with Floyd's speed, timing, and smarts. Pac times it and throws it with great velocity but Floyd will think he can get the jab in before Pac lands the hook, he will think that he can still get his straight right in which is the #1 punch against a Southpaw, and he will think that he can out hook Pac with it. That single thing could decide the whole match.

yup that's that big move roach was teachin him against Hatton which Hatton made fun of and said he can easily counter but then Pac ****d him with the same weapon. He ducks, counters your jab with his right hook over the top and then dips to his right and ends up at his opponents flank and then fires a straight left right into the side of their grill. it's perfect and you can see he's perfected it til it's second nature now

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The kids looks like he's gonna be a problem one day....but I'm not one for hyping up prospects or fighters that look promising, give the dude a few years to develop his craft and step into the elite level and we'll see what's up

[etlux]

That right hook that Pac lands at 2:24 is the ****. Thats whats been killing all his opponents lately. Can you believe that? A right hook is Pac's like #1 punch now. A few years ago he didnt even have a right hand at all. Its not just a good hook with power but he's like a student now. He times your ass with it and never misses. He's ****in everyone up with it. Again, I think its a huge advantage to be Southpaw so it makes that punch harder to stop and it hurts alot more when it lands but he's got that **** down pat now.

If Floyd beats Mosley and him & Pac get it on. I cant wait to see how Pac's right hook matches up with Floyd's speed, timing, and smarts. Pac times it and throws it with great velocity but Floyd will think he can get the jab in before Pac lands the hook, he will think that he can still get his straight right in which is the #1 punch against a Southpaw, and he will think that he can out hook Pac with it. That single thing could decide the whole match.

the problem why Pac won't catch Floyd with that hook though is because he usually catches people who are coming at him with something, i.e. swarmers like hatton or stalkers like cotto that are coming straight in and throwing, but Floyd doesn't fight like that so that right hook counter won't really do much against him because Floyd will be the one countering Pac instead

[DLT]

I understand that. It's hard to tell what he was really doing. How hard was he really trying. In a real fight, would he just sit on the ropes? If so then Benavidez kos him, but I doubt pac stays on the ropes, although he has before.

I looked at it two ways. Pac was just letting him get his confidence up, or he didnt care enough to try hard. Either way, I think it would have been more beneficial to actually try and get him some legitimate experience, or else that sparring session was meaningless.

IDK about all of that. I think Pac did enough to still give the kid some experince. He still was in there with the best, a Southpaw, a fast mover, and there were a few times where Pac was being Pac and the kid did alright. I also think Pac eploded a couple of times just enough and landed some good shots that the kid will watch on film and learn from or add, like that right hook at the 2:24 mark. If that wouldve happened to Khan early in sparring then maybe he doesnt get dropped by Prescott. If it hadnt been for Pac doing this to Jose, maybe he gets upset by a right hook just like Khan

[etlux]

IDK about all of that. I think Pac did enough to still give the kid some experince. He still was in there with the best, a Southpaw, a fast mover, and there were a few times where Pac was being Pac and the kid did alright. I also think Pac eploded a couple of times just enough and landed some good shots that the kid will watch on film and learn from or add, like that right hook at the 2:24 mark. If that wouldve happened to Khan early in sparring then maybe he doesnt get dropped by Prescott. If it hadnt been for Pac doing this to Jose, maybe he gets upset by a right hook just like Khan

Khan would brutally annihilate this kid in 1 round in a real match

[DLT]

the problem why Pac won't catch Floyd with that hook though is because he usually catches people who are coming at him with something, i.e. swarmers like hatton or stalkers like cotto that are coming straight in and throwing, but Floyd doesn't fight like that so that right hook counter won't really do much against him because Floyd will be the one countering Pac instead

True but Floyd has been aggressive in all his matches with Southpaws and even if he starts off countering Pac, I think he will switch it up and come forward more in the 2nd half of the fight

[BoxingFanFirst]

That right hook that Pac lands at 2:24 is the ****. Thats whats been killing all his opponents lately. Can you believe that? A right hook is Pac's like #1 punch now. A few years ago he didnt even have a right hand at all. Its not just a good hook with power but he's like a student now. He times your ass with it and never misses. He's ****in everyone up with it. Again, I think its a huge advantage to be Southpaw so it makes that punch harder to stop and it hurts alot more when it lands but he's got that **** down pat now.

If Floyd beats Mosley and him & Pac get it on. I cant wait to see how Pac's right hook matches up with Floyd's speed, timing, and smarts. Pac times it and throws it with great velocity but Floyd will think he can get the jab in before Pac lands the hook, he will think that he can still get his straight right in which is the #1 punch against a Southpaw, and he will think that he can out hook Pac with it. That single thing could decide the whole match.

Ya, that was the telling punch that shows if pac tried, he would win, but benavidez would stick in there better then some of the jokes he's fought lately, aka clottey. Thats saying a lot for a 17 year old kid.