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  • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
    Its fantasy so weight classes dont matter , in peoples minds they are matching the best of each with each other at the same weight anyway ,,,, you guys shouldnt mention weight because you only refer to weight class in the real fights when they weighed in for the day before , not their actual fighting weight .
    Then that is fine because, if weight don't matter than Pac goes through Floyd resume undefeated... I was going by weight-classes putting that into emphasis. But, if weight don't matter then yes Pac goes through Floyd resume undefeated.

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    • Originally posted by check hook View Post
      simply not true.........floyd would tax everyone on his resume with ease.........would Morales, Barrera or JMM beat Floyd at 130 or 35......or even if floyd went down......i think not......their resumes are directly comparable IMHO.......


      Pac:

      - Morales
      - Barrera
      - JMM
      - Hatton
      - Cotto
      - ODLH
      - Clottey

      May:


      - Corrales
      - Hernandez
      - Castillo
      - Gatti
      - Judah
      - Baldomir
      - ODLH
      - Hatton
      - JMM
      - SSM

      I fail to see any real differentiation points thatr make Pac's resume that much better than Floyds.....in reality SSm has a beter resume than both of them.


      floyd cleaned out 130 and was undisputed the top dog there.......Pac cleaned it out except for one fighter and when the time came to find out who was the best......they didn't take that challenge.
      Wow so you going to mention Judah and Gatti but not mention Ledwaba? You going to mention sorry ass Baldomir but not mention Sasakul or Diaz?

      So Floyd can fight Pac opponent if Floyd weight-class but Pac can't fight Floyd opponent in his weight-class?

      Floyd has never ever ever ever ever beaten anybody as good or as versatile as that first Barrera fight...

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      • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        Then that is fine because, if weight don't matter than Pac goes through Floyd resume undefeated... I was going by weight-classes putting that into emphasis. But, if weight don't matter then yes Pac goes through Floyd resume undefeated.
        dude, i suggest you go through your posts b/c you have seem to forgetten what you said yesterday.

        you said pac would not go through his resume undefeated and you stated that Augustus would have given pac trouble as well as castillo. and didnt you chico would have beat him too?

        come on jro

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        • Floyd didn't get owned whatsoever. He just gets defensive at regular honest questions. He is super focused. Good interview.

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          • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            At what weight he would of fought Pac opponents?

            Think before answering.
            Floyd was beastly at the lower weights whereas pac was still developing to his prime... Floyd has actually toned back on his offense. So the lower weight classes, handled.

            Any type of "slick" that guys like Sasukul had, Floyd had triple.


            But Floyd beats, David Diaz, ODLH, Hatton, and Cotto, if he fought them at the same stages Pac fought them at, and at the same weight classes.. If it was a prime DLH, or a prime Cotto, well that might be different..but Pac hardly fought prime versions of those, did he? Floyd also makes Clottey look like a sleeping lumbering fool and outpoints him to a decision.

            MAB, and Barerra would have been Floyd's biggest tests. Though he good all around, Barerra liked to get using roughhouse tactics ala the Hamed fight, but that plays right into Floyd's web doing that. MAB would be his strongest test cuz of the strong jab. But Floyd's legs and movement was much better. Floyd edge.

            Since he's safety first, he may not have beat some of these guys in such spectacular fashion as Pac did, but win he would have, nonetheless.

            Still, this is all hypothetical.. academic. But you started it lol

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            • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
              Wow so you going to mention Judah and Gatti but not mention Ledwaba? You going to mention sorry ass Baldomir but not mention Sasakul or Diaz?

              So Floyd can fight Pac opponent if Floyd weight-class but Pac can't fight Floyd opponent in his weight-class?

              Floyd has never ever ever ever ever beaten anybody as good or as versatile as that first Barrera fight...
              dude, come back to reality with th MAB ****. floyd would fry his ass and you know it

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              • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                The quality of oppositions is what makes him not.

                Ali fought everybody in his era and in damn near every fight came out on top.

                Ali fought in the Golden era of HW's...

                What do you mean what makes him now? Are you just going to repeat what that man says all the time? Half the time he makes no sense
                yeah i get exactly where u are coming from and im not saying floyd is the best of all time cos i dont think he is but you said it yourself Ali "damn near every fight came out on top"... nearly isnt gd enough to be the greatest of all time.. being competetive isnt winning and how can you be the best when someone figured you out and beat you in a fair fight?.. now im not saying an undefeated fighter is the best cos i dont think there has been a fighter to retire undefeated who fought the best in their primes but if floyd beats mosley and manny convincingly.... why isnt he top 5?

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                • thanks ive been waiting for this all day

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                  • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    WTF are you talking about with Howerd Cossell and in plenty high profile interviews he said SRR was greater than him. Not once did he say that he was greater than SRR. When Ali was talking about being the greatest he meant as a HW not P4P... But, even as a HW he said Gene Tunney could beat him, I just found out about an interview when he said Rocky Marciano could of beaten him as well....
                    Ok, I'll give you this. You seem to have seen all the interviews..I have not. I watch the fights and what is said at the post fights.

                    Perhaps Floyd isn't as rock solid sure of himself as Ali was. Ali was a titan. so..

                    whats telling to me is what I mentioned before. Floyd says he HAS to say he's better, like he feels obligated to say it for himself as positive reinforcement. Like its necessary for his process. A process, let me remind you, that has worked exceedingly well in his career.

                    I'm not about to fault him his hustle or his mental preparation.. Each fighter is different.

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                    • he's a jackass..avoiding questions..not understanding that us fans wanna talk about boxing..not ****ing PPV NUMBERS..im a ****ing boxing fan not a god damn business enthusiast . I wanna see and hear about mother****ing boxing!

                      I wanna hear about that not what kinda ****ing house or car u have..or how much money u have..or whos had plastic surgery..what the ****..are u paris hilton now...damn..maaan..this **** gets me crunk..

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