Does an ATG fighter look better historically if he had a NEMESIS?

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  • SuckaPunch
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    #1

    Does an ATG fighter look better historically if he had a NEMESIS?



    A simple question folks, does an ATG fighter look better historically if he had a nemesis?

    Can you name maybe top 5 ATG fighters from each group
    (a) with nemesis -- and who are these nemesis
    (b) w/out nemesis

    Maybe we can compare and contrast.
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    Ali had several nemesis, Liston, Foreman, Frasier...

    Foreman did not have any real rivals or nemesis to my knowledge...

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    • -GDS-
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      Absolutely. If a prime tyson had better nemesis, he would be viewed better in ATG terms. There has to be a great fighter for another great fighter to beat, or else people just say they weren't that great themselves. People say this about Calz, the Klit Bros., even Floyd.

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      • BritishBoxing92
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        #4
        Originally posted by SuckaPunch


        A simple question folks, does an ATG fighter look better historically if he had a nemesis?

        Can you name maybe top 5 ATG fighters from each group
        (a) with nemesis -- and who are these nemesis
        (b) w/out nemesis

        Maybe we can compare and contrast.
        hell yeah...look at the fights and hype to it..

        Ali-Frazier
        Tyson-Holyfield
        Tyson-Lewis
        ( i know tyson lost both these fights but it was a pretty good rivalry)

        Haye-Wlad or Vitali?? possibly??

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        • -Rab
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          #5
          Pac-JMM are rivals.

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          • FloydTBE
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            #6
            to an extent yes

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            • Derranged_
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              #7
              Question for the TS: Nemesis = Rival? Or not? I think they're similar terms but slightly different. Like Ali and Ken Norton, I don't think they were a nemesis to one another but they were sure fierce rivals...

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              • PensionKiller
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                #8
                Originally posted by BoxingPromoter
                Ali had several nemesis, Liston, Foreman, Frasier...

                Foreman did not have any real rivals or nemesis to my knowledge...
                Norton was his ******nite then

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                • rizkybizness
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                  #9
                  why don't you ask him yourself?

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                  • PensionKiller
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BritishBoxing92
                    hell yeah...look at the fights and hype to it..

                    Ali-Frazier
                    Tyson-Holyfield
                    Tyson-Lewis
                    ( i know tyson lost both these fights but it was a pretty good rivalry)

                    Haye-Wlad or Vitali?? possibly??
                    I'd say Lewis and Rahman were nemesis's or even holyfield over tyson.

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