Comments Thread For: Mayweather Jr: "Pacquiao Better Step His PPV Game Up"

[2501]

nice. Floyd making it even harder for this fight to happen.

Mayweather camp: "HEY PACQUIAO STOP BEING A ***** AND FIGHT! YOU'RE OVERRATED, YOU'RE NOT FIGHTER OF THE DECADE, FLOYD IS *****!! FIGHT FLOYD *****............................................. ..BUT YOU HAVE TO AGREE TO OST AND 70/30, THOUGH"

If Floyd really wanted this fight to happen, it would have been signed already

[loui_ludwig]

If all Pac cares about is being financially well off (and refuses to cave to Mayweathers demands) then I have no problem with your argument.

But if he cares about his legacy then your advice falls short.

A Mayweather win this saturday against the fighter that Pac's trainer has gone on record as saying that he won't allow Pac to fight because he is "too good" doesn't fare well for Pac in the history books.

History will always remember Pac as one of the best fighters of his era. He will be remembered for his exciting style and his willingness to always go for the knock-out.

He will also be remembered for never facing the other best fighters in his era.... having turned down the opportunity because he didn't agree with additional testing measures that were just begining to take place in the sport of boxing to clean it up. History will remember Pac of being suspected as an unclean fighter but in the end nothing was ever proven. After passing on the fight that could have defined his career as a potential all time great, Pac went on to fight others that didn't require him to test and ended up leaving the sport at the exact same time that the sport of boxing was cleaning out fighters using PED's.

Forget this forum, forget about our thoughts or ideas or positions. In the end only history's judgment of Pac will stand...... and if Pac cares at all about that..... only he has the ability to do anything about it.

Just like PBF also. If PBF wants to clean up his sports, why did he have to wait for a Pac fight? Why not against Marquez?

As far as defining a career, like any other boxers, the next fight is always a defining career but its only when a boxer retire that you define his career, not while his still active.

Pac said he has 3 more fights. Let say Pac fights PBF next and beat him, then wins a 2nd fight against another ranked fighter. Tim Bradley suddenly becomes a top 5 P4P, and a mega draw, fans will want to see a Pac-Bradley fight. Then it will be said again just like Mayweather, Pac fighting Bradley will define his career.

[tacoboxer]

Pacquiao is a:

• WW Champion
• Best Fighter of the Decade
• Pound for Pound King

And that's just the start, how can he not have at least 50% of the purse if he fight Mayweather?

A 50/50 is logical and fair...but if one has to consider many things I have just mentioned above (and then some) then Pacquiao can even argue for a 60/40 but I don't think that this would happen with Floyd being a purely mercenarian fighter that he is.

He doesn't respect the sport but the money. And so 50/50 is fair in this light.

Not a bad argument...well thought out and reasonable.... but that is only part of the equation.

If Floyd is what he says he is after this weekend he will also be a WW champion so that is a wash.

Fighter of the Decade is a nice accolade and I have no problem with Pac getting it (very exciting style... go for broke attitude... gunning for the knock out in every fight). I dont care that pac lost to Morales or struggled with Marquez... nothing says the Figher of the Decade has to be undefeated to be deserving of the award. Because of his style and results Pac is deserving of both F.O.D. and p4p king ....... (I understand why boxing would prefer Pac as F.O.D....... with Floyd's attitude and style and demeanor being so caustic)

But here is my question.. help me answer it because I haven't been able to. If more fight fans prefer Pac's style and agree Pac's fights are always action packed (compared to floyds technical "hit and dont get hit.... defense first.... don't push for the knock out if it means added risk of getting knocked out).. why does that not translate to the bottom line? Why does floyd outsell Pac significantly against common opponents? Shouldn't consistently producing a higher percentage of ppv draw equate to deserving a higher percentage of the money it generates?

In the USA (were the fight is taking place) we live in a democracy.

Fact: The boxing public have spoken with their wallets and Floyd is who they prefer to see and are willing to pay for it. If the boxing public sends the same message this weekend and pushes this fight into the 2 million ppv buys range then that alone should dictate who deserves the bigger purse.

Unless you believe that a few select, elite people of high position that are able to cast votes for F.O.D. should have the loudest voice on which fighter makes how much..... that argument just doesn't sound right to me.

Let the free market decide who deserves what..... after all those are the rules you and I have to live by.

[flexxx145]

Would you like to see PWill vs Pac?

Pac said that guys like that are too tall. That's why he didn't want to fight Yuri Foreman. I would watch it though if it happened as long as it isn't at a catchweight.

[And Still]

The ******* Chronicles:

November, 2009: "Manny is the bigger draw.HAHAHAHAHA. Look at his PPV numbers. OMG. Fraud can't get 50%. OMG . Manny sold more than Gayweather. LOLZ."


April, 2010: "Gentlemen, all this talk about PPV numbers is irrelevant. I strongly advocate that we ignore PPV revenues and just split 50/50"

[And Still]

Pacquiao is a:

• WW Champion
• Best Fighter of the Decade
• Pound for Pound King

And that's just the start, how can he not have at least 50% of the purse if he fight Mayweather?

A 50/50 is logical and fair...but if one has to consider many things I have just mentioned above (and then some) then Pacquiao can even argue for a 60/40 but I don't think that this would happen with Floyd being a purely mercenarian fighter that he is.

He doesn't respect the sport but the money. And so 50/50 is fair in this light.

Suddenly, you are begging for 50/50. Hilarious.

[waxfondler]

YOU SEE THAT'S THE POINT, why in the hell was it even logical for PACNUTS TO EVEN FIGHT CLOTTEY? What kinda business decisions are being made over there at TOP RANK? I know the "LETS KEEP THE MONEY ALL IN HOUSE DECISIONS" and now its gonna bite them in the ass. No matter how you slice it, PAQUIAO'S BIGGEST NUMBERS WERE AGAINST DELAHOYA WHICH was 1.5 million, he did less than mayweather there, he did less than mayweather against hatton, this is simple truth. HONESTLY WHEN NEGOTIATIONS FELL APART THE LAST PERSON YOU WOULD HAVE GUESSED would have been CLOTTEY! Thats right there shows that its really BOB ARUMS ASS....

Floyd didnt make PACQUIAO fight CLOTTEY. I mean look at how fast he was there to fight since negotiations fell through....... THAT WAS THE PLAN ALL ALONG, PACS TEAM MADE A HORRIBLE DECISION IN FACING CLOTTEY.

im totally against the evil empire of bob arum. LOL. honestly, although i saw clottey a legitimate option (ranked WW), i knew it was a horrible business move.... floyd loves bringing up PPV draw as a bargaining chip, so pac vs clottey would only hurt pac in a business sense, but you gotta remember shane was locked in with berto... pac had no OTHER OPTIONS at WW if he wanted to maintain the fight date. if mosley/berto were to happen, floyd would have been stuck fighting a chump (or stayed inactive)... then where would his PPV draw leave him???? im sure floyd wouldnt have been able to draw 700k PPV & 50k+ at the gate vs a chump... mosley was the golden goose for floyd. if floyd didnt have shane, what option would he have??? he wouldve been forced to fight ANOTHER smaller man... because we KNOW floyd wouldnt move up to fight p-will, martinez, cintron, etc... so the floodgates of criticism was ready to BURST... so floyd got lucky shane got freed from berto... im not saying shane is a HUGE ppv draw, but the combination of floyd with shane equals $$$$.

and yes, floyd enjoyed a bigger payday vs oscar & ricky compared to pac... but this was do to lack of confidence from fans of oscar & ricky... "over the hill" oscar & "beaten" hatton wasnt as good of a sell for manny... so yes, in a promotional sense, manny got leftovers. lets not forget this is regarding PPV not LEGACY.... manny is sitting pretty regarding his legacy (arguably), only thing ruining it is the allegations of PEDs. other than that, he is already in the record books (7 division champ)....

and as for floyd's legacy (his unbeaten record)... if he wants to retire after shane (if he wins), he still doesnt beat rocky marciano's record of 49-0. so no records being broken for floyd.... he cant even beat calzaghes record of 46-0. maybe he can be considered PPV king, but he is still behind oscar & tyson.

definitely floyd is going in the right direction by fighting shane. if he beats shane, i wouldnt argue him asking 60/40 & USADA testing vs manny.

[loui_ludwig]

Pac said that guys like that are too tall. That's why he didn't want to fight Yuri Foreman. I would watch it though if it happened as long as it isn't at a catchweight.

Pwill said he still can go down 147 with no problem.

Morales was the only one who knew how to use his height advantage over Pac in their first fight even though Eric was 1-2 inches taller. Dela Hoya was taller than most of his opponents but he really never try to use it as an advantage.

[Sugar Q]

im totally against the evil empire of bob arum. LOL. honestly, although i saw clottey a legitimate option (ranked WW), i knew it was a horrible business move.... floyd loves bringing up PPV draw as a bargaining chip, so pac vs clottey would only hurt pac in a business sense, but you gotta remember shane was locked in with berto... pac had no OTHER OPTIONS at WW if he wanted to maintain the fight date. if mosley/berto were to happen, floyd would have been stuck fighting a chump (or stayed inactive)... then where would his PPV draw leave him???? im sure floyd wouldnt have been able to draw 700k PPV & 50k+ at the gate vs a chump... mosley was the golden goose for floyd. if floyd didnt have shane, what option would he have??? he wouldve been forced to fight ANOTHER smaller man... because we KNOW floyd wouldnt move up to fight p-will, martinez, cintron, etc... so the floodgates of criticism was ready to BURST... so floyd got lucky shane got freed from berto... im not saying shane is a HUGE ppv draw, but the combination of floyd with shane equals $$$$.

and yes, floyd enjoyed a bigger payday vs oscar & ricky compared to pac... but this was do to lack of confidence from fans of oscar & ricky... "over the hill" oscar & "beaten" hatton wasnt as good of a sell for manny... so yes, in a promotional sense, manny got leftovers. lets not forget this is regarding PPV not LEGACY.... manny is sitting pretty regarding his legacy (arguably), only thing ruining it is the allegations of PEDs. other than that, he is already in the record books (7 division champ)....

and as for floyd's legacy (his unbeaten record)... if he wants to retire after shane (if he wins), he still doesnt beat rocky marciano's record of 49-0. so no records being broken for floyd.... he cant even beat calzaghes record of 46-0. maybe he can be considered PPV king, but he is still behind oscar & tyson.

definitely floyd is going in the right direction by fighting shane. if he beats shane, i wouldnt argue him asking 60/40 & USADA testing vs manny.

First of all Shane went to Roach and the press before the Berto fight and BEGGED Manny for a fight but Manny wanted absolutely no part of him and it is well documented all over the internet. You seem a bit delusional when comparing Pac to Floyd. Why not just call it like it is "Floyd is a far bigger draw than Manny" period, point blank and that's what it is. Some will say well Floyd had Shane but what about when Manny had Cotto. I would say that Cotto has a much bigger following than Shane does but May/Marquez almost out sold Pac/Cotto so just be a good sport and tell it like it is. Floyd is the man in boxing.

[johncods]

Step pac's PPV game up??? He's averaging 1mill PPV buys for his last 4 PPV's you dummy. He just sold out 51,000 seats alone and did 700 PPV buys without any promotion whatsoever. WTF is this fraud talking about??