Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: Roach Has a Drug Testing Solution

[switchsouthpaw]

Where is any proof that any other sports player should take a test if they have never had a positive one?

Again you offer broad examples that aren't applicable. Each sport offers their own form of drug testing from the NFL to the NBL and NBA all under one governing body, boxing isn't governed by a uniformed commission, it's jurisdictional and based on the state in which you are competing, hence why Vegas does not test for Xylocaine and California does. Each state would have to adopt the same rules or risk being unfair to all athletes, but again you make broad based sweeping assumptions, presumptions and use bad analogies to promote your favorite fighters agenda.

[Bhopreign]

Again you offer broad examples that aren't applicable. Each sport offers their own form of drug testing from the NFL to the NBL and NBA all under one governing body, boxing isn't governed by a uniformed commission, it's jurisdictional and based on the state in which you are competing, hence why Vegas does not test for Xylocaine and California does. Each state would have to adopt the same rules or risk being unfair to all athletes, but again you make broad based sweeping assumptions, presumptions and use bad analogies to promote your favorite fighters agenda.

Therefore I said, no fight then.

[EDOMITESLAYER]

What's with everyone saying either a cutoff date or not? Have you guys ever had a GF? My goodness compromise is the key to success. They will HAVE to come to an agreement and this seems reasonable.

YEAH I actually agree with you, but the 14 days "was" a compromise, and 17 days instead of 14, are they trying to make people think manny is on something? I know they have to try and save face to and make it seem as if floyd didn't get everything he wanted either.So they can sleep good at night. It just makes PAC seem guilty, I mean the fight didnt go through because they wanted 24 days, now they ready to drop down to 17 days, I am pretty sure floyd would have went with this don't you think? I think they were just not ready.

Roach is smart though, I think he knows this will be a fight that MAY COULD get hurt in, not lose, but get ****** up a bit, and he will be ready to fight him then.CANT BLAME HIM THOUGH.


AND THEM TWO CHICKS ARE HOT!!!! LOL!!!

[switchsouthpaw]

Very applicable. You see, whether you know it or not, believe and is are two different things with two different meanings.

Both raise questions prompting more answers, hence you can say "I believe he is on PEDs (assumption) or "He is on PEDs (presumption of guilt), both of which insinuate that a person "may" be or is on something, now you have to base that presumption/assumption on actual facts(reasonable su****ion), in this care there are none, so it would be hearsay--now where is the hearsay coming from? Two men who have already been through the court system themselves and their accusations would be applied to their credibility...you see where this all leads? NO WHERE

[Clyde Barrow]

Blah blah blah. This fight isn't happening. No matter what they come up with egos will kill this deal.

[DARKSEID]

U watch....He'll agree to tests an then May will want 65/35 U JUST WATCH!

haha props to floyd if that was his plan all along

[Bhopreign]

Both raise questions prompting more answers, hence you can say "I believe he is on PEDs (assumption) or "He is on PEDs (presumption of guilt), both of which insinuate that a person "may" be or is on something, now you have to base that presumption/assumption on actual facts(reasonable su****ion), in this care there are none, so it would be hearsay--now where is the hearsay coming from? Two men who have already been through the court system themselves and their accusations would be applied to their credibility...you see where this all leads? NO WHERE

Wrong, now youre totally speculating. Youre putting words in his mouth. Again, believe and is mean two different things, trust me on this one. Or check Webster if you dont believe me. Is means something is true, valid, believe, well you should know what that means since you believe all the shenanigans Manny is pulling.

[fabie]

Listen man, there's no point in arguing about this. The Bottom line is that if Pacquiao was clean, he would take the tests to prove his doubters wrong. I would. So would a lot of fighters. Amir Khan is ready to do it. Cotto said he would also do it. Shane Mosley is doing it. Floyd is also doing it.

That is exactly the failed surmation that is preconceived in the minds of the Mayweathers that this fight is not going to happen.

What you and Mayweathers don't seem to understand is that one cannot FORCE someone to be tested out of their whims.

I have given an example earlier (don't know if you have read it). That if one cries about something that went afoul, does that mean that alleged or accused party SHOULD be tested?

• Why do you think there is a preliminary court hearings before there is an actual court hearing?

To determine if the accusation has grounds towards a real lawsuit.

Same logic can be applied anywhere else. If the Mayweathers harped, does it mean it is logical, verifiable and proven? NOPE.

Because there are many things to be considered first. The first and foremost are the integrity of the Mayweathers as the accusers and the "red flags" that leads towards the accusations THEN verifiable proofs, not speculations.

Both fighters in Mayweather and Pacquiao are "clean" and no "red flags" in their history that can lead towards testing (according to the NSAC).

MERE SPECULATIONS cannot lead towards testing because what if Pacquiao is clean? What kind of punishments should the Mayweathers get for bringing up crap with their accusations then?

That is why there are protocols.

This is a civilized world. Just because boxing is a brutal sport doesn't mean one cannot bring integrity to it. And it isn't about just the money either. And in both counts I think the Mayweathers are a fool for these...

[Bhopreign]

That is exactly the failed surmation that is preconceived in the minds of the Mayweathers that this fight is not going to happen.

What you and Mayweathers don't seem to understand is that one cannot FORCE someone to be tested out of their whims.

I have given an example earlier (don't know if you have read it). That if one cries about something that went afoul, does that mean that alleged or accused party SHOULD be tested?

• Why do you think there is a preliminary court hearings before there is an actual court hearing?

To determine if the accusation has grounds towards a real lawsuit.

Same logic can be applied anywhere else. If the Mayweathers harped, does it mean it is logical, verifiable and proven? NOPE.

Because there are many things to be considered first. The first and foremost are the integrity of the Mayweathers as the accusers and the "red flags" that leads towards the accusations THEN verifiable proofs, not speculations.

Both fighters in Mayweather and Pacquiao are "clean" and no "red flags" in their history that can lead towards testing (according to the NSAC).

MERE SPECULATIONS cannot lead towards testing because what if Pacquiao is clean? What kind of punishments should the Mayweathers get for bringing up crap with their accusations then?

That is why there are protocols.

This is a civilized world. Just because boxing is a brutal sport doesn't mean one cannot bring integrity to it. And it isn't about just the money either. And in both counts I think the Mayweathers are a fool for these...

Fine, then no fight.

[fabie]

Fine, then no fight.

Fine with me, as long as it is clear that because the Mayweathers didn't want to fight.

Which is sad on the other hand that as a fan of Mayweather's skills it wasn't tested enough to be called one of the best ever.

My own humble opinion of him is that he is the greatest defensive fighter of all time with an asterisk. His attributes are definitely up there.