Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: Roach Has a Drug Testing Solution

[babyl-on]

Well there are penalites in place already for fighters that don't come in at their respective weight classes. Just like there is a drug testing system to To me there was no way FLoyd would come into back to back fights (especially one of this magnitude overweight again).

Im bringing this up for 2 reasons.

1. Floyd's getting a bit of a bad rap for asking for this test, however, like you said earlier, Floyd agreed to his request to pay manny more than a 1,000 percent more than what he paid marquez to give Manny PEACE OF MIND that come fight night, they would be on a level playing field.

2. By Manny not willing to comply to the test after floyd agreed to his stipulation gives me the impression that either manny is guilty or hiding something, or they never expected Floyd to accept that ridiculous amount.

Not to mention if your using your same theory on the weight issue's with both fighters, then we're arguing a mute point. Like you said Floyd agreed to pay Pacquiao 10 mil every pound he was overweight, the same way Marquez agreed to fight Floyd knowing mayweather was 2lbs over during the weigh-in. Floyd didn't try to negotiate around it, (even though the number is excessively high) he signed so pacquiao didn't have to worry about that **** come fight night. Manny/Roach on the other hand just seem to have a problem with RANDOM BLOOD TEST, not giving Floyd the peace of mind he's willing to give manny.

I have a question for you. If Mayweather had told Manny to go f-ck himself when they asked him to pay 10mil per pound every pound he was overweight, and mayweather refused AND THE FIGHT WAS CANCELED BECAUSE OF IT; would we/you assume that it was because come the night of the weigh-in Mayweather planned on coming in overweight again? If your answer is yes, then you should be able to understand why people are questioning Pacquiao.

wow. i've gotten myself too involved in this thread. anyway. no. i disagree. floyd proved that he "could" come in overweight (you know, i know, we ALL know he did against jmm--even if just once). if pac had substantial evidence against him that he was on ANY PEDs-and please, maybe i "misremembered" something but what happened to the a-side meth claims made by one of the originators of these suggestions?- then he'd have no choice but to submit to may. but there is NOTHING except for some suggestions. if pac was in mosley's position this is a mute point. he is not, why subject to extra standards not required by the commish (and add to the fact that you're the top--maybe--fighter now)? this is all business people. don't read so much into it. enjoy saturday.

[Russian Crushin]

You can negotiate anything you want in a contract, doesnt matter if its purple socks or whatever. Youre quick to say Floyd cheated, when fighters have trouble making weight every day. But you find no reason to be criticle of Manny for not wanting to show the world that he is a clean athlete in the same manner Shane Mosley is doing.

Look there are only 2 fighters in HISTORY that have taken this test, 2. So stop with it unless every fighter takes that same test. Another thing is every fighter that weighs over is cheating, i dont care who it is.....but for an Elite fighter to weigh over is just unacceptable

[jayhova29]

Its not leverage, its because Pac knows he's dirty, if it was leverage, when Floyd brought up testing, Manny would have said no to the whole thing, cutoff date or no cutoff date.

My point exactly. They didn't handle it the way a self respecting, innocent person would, the minute Floyd brought it up, if they felt that offended by the accusation they should of cut negotiations off then and filed there lawsuit. But when your positions goes from "we're not taking any test outside of the NSAC" from " We don't mind taking blood test but not random ones" to "manny's afraid of needles" to "we'll agree to 3 random blood test, 1. during the press conference, the other 30 days before and the final one after the fight" to "Ok we'll take random blood test, but not unless we know when the cut off date is" to "ok random blood test up until 30 days before the fight" to "ok we'll go down to 24 days final offer" to "14 days is not fair" THEREFORE FIGHT OVER. Something is up, turning down the biggest draw in boxing for the biggest payday to fight a guy for not even half that much, is going to raise eyebrows.

[AssasinKing]

***yawn*** No cutoff dates, Roach. Either accept it or don't. Go with the original USADA's testing schedule.

USADA's or Floyds schedule...

[Russian Crushin]

wow. i've gotten myself too involved in this thread. anyway. no. i disagree. floyd proved that he "could" come in overweight (you know, i know, we ALL know he did against jmm--even if just once). if pac had substantial evidence against him that he was on ANY PEDs-and please, maybe i "misremembered" something but what happened to the a-side meth claims made by one of the originators of these suggestions?- then he'd have no choice but to submit to may. but there is NOTHING except for some suggestions. if pac was in mosley's position this is a mute point. he is not, why subject to extra standards not required by the commish (and add to the fact that you're the top--maybe--fighter now)? this is all business people. don't read so much into it. enjoy saturday.

I agree its all business

[Bhopreign]

My point exactly. They didn't handle it the way a self respecting, innocent person would, the minute Floyd brought it up, if they felt that offended by the accusation they should of cut negotiations off then and filed there lawsuit. But when your positions goes from "we're not taking any test outside of the NSAC" from " We don't mind taking blood test but not random ones" to "manny's afraid of needles" to "we'll agree to 3 random blood test, 1. during the press conference, the other 30 days before and the final one after the fight" to "Ok we'll take random blood test, but not unless we know when the cut off date is" to "ok random blood test up until 30 days before the fight" to "ok we'll go down to 24 days final offer" to "14 days is not fair" THEREFORE FIGHT OVER. Something is up, turning down the biggest draw in boxing for the biggest payday to fight a guy for not even half that much, is going to raise eyebrows.

Thorough and right to the point. This sums it all up.

[Russian Crushin]

its obvious whats going on here

Im right and everyone else is wrong

[EL_cano]

I agree its all business

this right here since day 1.

[Filipino Floyd]

With Mosley doing 8 random tests during his training, the USADA is no joke.

[| THE KING |]

FELLAS! this is ALL IRRELEVANT! Roger himself said manny is not on HGH or any PEDs. He's on A-Side meth! Bullets bounce off of him! No point in taking the test, it will not catch A-Side!! Ask roger! LOL