how can a boxer like vic ortiz

[Squirt]

they are white wash like dela hoya. they dont got pure mexican in them who will fight to death. they dont have the hunger.

[-ELO-]

they are white wash like dela hoya. they dont got pure mexican in them who will fight to death. they dont have the hunger.

What do you mean white wash?

[cletoreyes147]

ortiz has as great trainer, u cant teach someone to have heart

The truth! I think the next great boxing superstar has to have wiped his ass with his hand, worked in the fields as a kid, sold stolen cigarettes in the streets, etc. That's why I don't pay too much attention to these young American prospects, no heart. True fighters need a reason to fight: hunger, poverty, etc. Ability can only get you so far, after that it's all heart and will.

[tito_bandito]

The truth! I think the next great boxing superstar has to have wiped his ass with his hand, worked in the fields as a kid, sold stolen cigarettes in the streets, etc. That's why I don't pay too much attention to these young American prospects, no heart. True fighters need a reason to fight: hunger, poverty, etc. Ability can only get you so far, after that it's all heart and will.

Ortiz has done all that