Anyone else have a feeling that Shane might get robbed?

[savorduhflavor]

Here we go again savor!
Effective aggression and clean punching are 2 different criteria for judging rounds. There is no specific percentage given to the judges to for each of those two criteria, which gives judges the lattitude to award more "points" fir lack of a better word to the criteria that they favor. As long as the aggression is effective, it cannot be considered a robbery.


I disagree with dazed as well. Homecookin and moneycookin are the two most likely reasons for an outright robbery. Those both favor Floyd in this fight.

While you and I are aware of that, I think we can both agree that plenty of judges aren't. Judges like to see volume...I think that's universally understood.

[apokalips]

getting robbed goes alot of different ways. I mean if you think he got robbed but half the people think Floyd won then he didnt really get robbed. If there is one where pretty much everyone thinks Shane won then it doesnt matter anyways because what the public thinks is reality, e****ally in a big mainstream fight. If Mosley gets robbed then everyone will still see it as he won and thats all that matters.

I personally think though that Floyd is more likely to get robbed than any guy in boxing because he is so disliked that people are always looking to give the round to the opponent. Even the people who like him are subconciously doing that at times because they are so not use to Floyd getting hit or being in a tough fight so if someone lands a few clean shots then it may look like Floyd is losing because youve never seen that happened to him before when its actually normal for other fighters

100% this. Floyd is still unpredictable to some people, they will see him do something and believe he is uncomfortable because they aren't used to seeing him do it.

Not quite the same thing, but I remember in the Castillo II fight Lederman was saying something must be wrong with Floyd's left hand because he threw and landed 5 right hands in a row in quick succession and nobody does that unless something is wrong, but as he was speaking Floyd threw a hard left hook.

TBH after seeing Oscar get a split decision with Floyd, I believe anything can happen on the judges scorecards in a Mayweather fight, especially if the opponent makes it appear like he is attacking.

[-Antonio-]

Shane won't be anywhere near close enough in the fight to cry robbery.

Floyd will win 9 rounds.

This......

[street bully]

He already recieved a gift against castillo the first time years ago

[Walt Liquor]

While you and I are aware of that, I think we can both agree that plenty of judges aren't. Judges like to see volume...I think that's universally understood.

but is that not within their right as a judge who must determine which criteria he or she weights the most? As long as it is effective (for example, Froch's aggression vs Dirrel was not effective, but Manny's vs Clottey was).

[Walt Liquor]

Don't know bout that. Ask Oscar De La Hoya about how things run in Vegas. Does anyone know if Floyd has paid off all his debts? Might play a factor into whether he gets the decision or not.

Point taken, but I still thank that the Manny/Floyd fight loming is the single biggest factor (although there is no freaking way in hell that anyone should have scored Floyd-Oscar for Oscar or a draw). Floyd won a minimum of 8 rounds in that fight.

I think a deciding factor is robbery, not whether or not we think a close fight went the wrong way.. A close fight either way is not a robbery. If the fight is lopsided in either way and someone gets ROBBED, I believe it is more likely that Shane would be the robbed one. For example, I consider Dirrel/Froch a robbery.

[IMDAZED]

Point taken, but I still thank that the Manny/Floyd fight loming is the single biggest factor (although there is no freaking way in hell that anyone should have scored Floyd-Oscar for Oscar or a draw). Floyd won a minimum of 8 rounds in that fight.

I think a deciding factor is robbery, not whether or not we think a close fight went the wrong way.. A close fight either way is not a robbery. If the fight is lopsided in either way and someone gets ROBBED, I believe it is more likely that Shane would be the robbed one. For example, I consider Dirrel/Froch a robbery.

I hear you bud but I don't think the powers that be are thinking Manny-Floyd. A bird in one hand is better than two in the bush and while Manny-Floyd may be the biggest fight ever, Shane-Manny may be a fight they can actually make.

[The Hammer]

He already recieved a gift against castillo the first time years ago

True, but Floyd had Bob Arum as his promoter at that time.

Arum's fighters don't lose on the scorecards unless they are dominated, a good example is Martirosyan-Ouma.

But Floyd is more likely to get robbed in this one, since Mosley is a partner in Golden Boy Promotions.

[RockyB]

ive been thinking this myself,
IF he can make the fight competitive. which i doubt he can..
And i am a big Mosley fan!

[johnm is...]

I could see Floyd getting robbed first.

THIS.

Look how close they were to robbing him against Oscar. LOL @ a SD.

The look on Floyd's face when they announced one judge scored it for Oscar was priceless.