Kevin Iole: "It is NOT fair to say the Floyd hasn't faced an elite WW before"

[BoxingFanFirst]

Its not arguing semantics. Its arguing actual quality.

No matter how you slice it, Judah, Baldomir and Hatton are not elite fighters.

It was the weakest possible opposition he took on.

They were considered elite at the time. What do you not understand about that?

[Dick Buffman]

Manny is a WW. The LW bs is out the window buddy.

Manny is overachieving at higher weights.

He's not a real WW. His best weight is LW.

He can easily make 135.

Floyd couldn't even make the weight against Marquez.

[V.WEBB]

he beat the man that beat Clottey right before hand tho...

and that was a controversial decision

And...its still a LOSS.

A disputed loss to another ELITE WW in Cotto.

Not a journeyman nobody ever heard of who had 12 losses.

Big difference.

And Manny is a LW beating up WW's.

No comparison at all.

So Clottey is elite? Who exactly did he beat to become elite?

[Dick Buffman]

They were considered elite at the time. What do you not understand about that?

Nobody considered them elite. Baldomir just had a belt.

Thats why Mayweather fought him.

[The Gambler1981]

Its not arguing semantics. Its arguing actual quality.

No matter how you slice it, Judah, Baldomir and Hatton are not elite fighters.

It was the weakest possible opposition he took on.

Prove to me that the guys you wanted Mayweather to fight were greater~ what feats did they accomplish to move them ahead of these guys.

All three guys Judah,Hatton and Baldomir were all actually the top guys in a division~

Margarito really is not all that much different then Baldmor except that Baldomir is actually a tough guy not a fake tough guy like Margarito~

[Boss Don]

Its not arguing semantics. Its arguing actual quality.

No matter how you slice it, Judah, Baldomir and Hatton are not elite fighters.

It was the weakest possible opposition he took on.

what are you talking about when Floyd fought Judah everybody was mad that he wasn't fighting Baldomir or Hatton because they were the best out there

[Michael Hall]

im OBVIOUSLY not couting that win for Mayweather, that joke was a complete farce. Mayweather was like 2 feet taller then Marquez and like twice as big.

Not to mention Marquez had to jump 2 weight classes. Mayweather should be EMBARASSED that he shared a ring with marquez the way he did

Dude, shut the hell up with your 10,000 excuses.

[Dick Buffman]

And...its still a LOSS.



So Clottey is elite? Who exactly did he beat to become elite?

He destroyed Judah, arguably beat Cotto, gave Margarito a tough ass fight and reigned in the top of the rankings for years.


He was an elite WW by any definition.

[BoxingFanFirst]

Alright well im done here. To many idiots on this site. I'll stick to ignoring threads like this.

[The Big Dunn]

Prove to me that the guys you wanted Mayweather to fight were greater~ what feats did they accomplish to move them ahead of these guys.

All three guys Judah,Hatton and Baldomir were all actually the top guys in a division~

Margarito really is not all that much different then Baldmor except that Baldomir is actually a tough guy not a fake tough guy like Margarito~

School the youth. Marg is a cheater. Also, he was 2 fights removed from losing to Daniel Santos yet he was an elite ww?

I don't know exactly what constitutes elite? But, Dan Rafael ahd both Baldo and Zab ranked in his top 4 ww when floyd fought them.

As of today who are the "elite" ww:

floyd, shane, manny and who else?