SERGIO MARTINEZ: "Mayweather is better than Pacquiao."

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  • Devils Advocate
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    #61
    Originally posted by jonarie
    I still like Martinez.

    Nobody can tell if either is better than the other until they fight.
    At least he's willing to fight!!! Thats half the battle right there

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      #62
      Originally posted by 2501
      not necessarily because of the context of the second question isn't clear. Ellie asked him who he had between Pacquiao and Mayweather if they ever fought and he replied Floyd because Floyd is better. But does Martinez rate him higher on the p4p list? On the ATG list? Who knows. Do cucumbers taste better pickled?



      actually yes...throw some pepper on em and you've got a nice little snack

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        #63
        Originally posted by 2501
        I think the only people who would disagree are hardcore Pacquiao fans. Floyd is obviously the better fighter, but Pacquiao is the "greater" fighter in terms of legacy.

        greater legacy by fighting guys on the down slide?

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          #64
          Originally posted by jonarie
          I still like Martinez.

          Nobody can tell if either is better than the other until they fight.


          truth right here..

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          • Horus
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            #65
            Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
            I honestly feel Manny is a better fighter than Floyd, but Floyd is greater in certain aspect and vice versa with Manny.

            Defense-Floyd
            Technical-Floyd
            Counterpunching Floyd
            Footwork-Floyd (but Manny is closing the distance fast)
            Footspeed -Manny
            Handspeed-Manny
            Power-Manny
            Offense-Manny
            Ring IQ-Floyd
            Controlling Distance-Floyd
            Putting combo's together-Manny
            Accuracy-Manny
            Effecientcy-Floyd
            Stamina-Even
            Corner-Manny
            Adjustments-Floyd (but having Roach helps Manny alot)
            Heart-Manny
            Chin-????

            That's just off the dome and there are other areas in which I could break down, but aren't coming to mind yet.
            Absolutely not. Floyd is the most Accurate fighter in BOXING HISTORY.
            And most definitely in the last 30 years.
            Pacquiao is not even top 5 in top category.


            These are facts, supported by numbers, tape, and history.

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              #66
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              Floyd is better then him and its not even close. Two completely different levels of fighters. All you have to do is watch the tape.
              no he is not, but if you feel that way....cool.

              The problem with you guys is that you try to force your opinions on other people and get mad because people don't believe what you say. If there was some type of fact or if it was obvious, then I could see. Bottom line is both are great but the difference is Pac has proven it against truly great fighters, while Floyd has proven it against good fighters. It's easy to look good against an opponent is average to good vs fighters who are considered among greatest of this era.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Horus
                Absolutely not. Floyd is the most Accurate fighter in BOXING HISTORY.
                And most definitely in the last 30 years.
                Pacquiao is not even top 5 in top category.


                These are facts, supported by numbers, tape, and history.

                I knew this would get you hot...lol but I truly believe he is. I would go into detail but I gotta bounce. Remind me on your show and I will break down why I said that.

                FWIW it's just my opinion on how I see things...but I can break down why I see it that way..just not now....peace

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Floyd is better then him and its not even close. Two completely different levels of fighters. All you have to do is watch the tape.
                  he has a breakdown you don't...keep trolling

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                    #69
                    Mayweather and Pacquiao fight in the same weight class, and both are in their prime.

                    So here is the question.

                    Why is that Pacquiao if he fought Mayweather today would be a underdog?
                    When the fight was agreed to in November..

                    Pacquiao was close to being a 3 to 1 underdog. the same as Hatton, Marquez, and De la hoya.


                    Why is it that if Pacquiao is consider better than Floyd.
                    He would be a almost a 3 to 1 under against Mayweather

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      Absolutely not. Floyd is the most Accurate fighter in BOXING HISTORY.
                      And most definitely in the last 30 years.
                      Pacquiao is not even top 5 in top category.


                      These are facts, supported by numbers, tape, and history.

                      btw...numbers really can't tell the whole story when it comes to accuracy. Effeciency maybe, but not accuracy.

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