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  • guru
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    #21
    i was a huge tyson fan in his early days, but i too got really annoyed by all the idiots in the past year clamoring that he was going to unify the divsion... the writing was on the wall for any NORMAL fan to see, but the nutlickers couldn't.. prior to losing to mcbride, mike was 2-2 in the last 5 YEARS, he was finished, it isnt 1987 anymore....

    now unlike alot of people, i dont hold this lost against him or his career... just like i dont for holy and his recent losses.... they're old and have been washed up years, these losses dont really mean anything...

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    • spinksjinx
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      #22
      Originally posted by jabsRstiff
      Some problems.....

      Spinks had become an inactive fighter leading up to the Tyson fight.
      3 defenses in almost three years.....& a year out before facing Tyson. That's not good.

      He was also absolutely terrified, which locked down his abilities & made every Tyson punch that much more damaging.

      I was more impressed with tyson's wins over Biggs, Berbick, & Pinklon Thomas
      Because Spinks was inactive you cant really count that against Tysons win. As you said it surely isnt good but I still dont think you can discredit Tyson with that. I mean Spinks was the linear champ and the man to beat.

      With Spinks being so petrified just adds to the glamour of what Tyson was about. That is appealing in itself because Spinks stood up to the giant and conquered against Holmes and for Tyson to intimidate him that much says something I believe.

      But the fights you speak of that you were more impressed with I agree to an extent. But the Spinks fight is the most significant in my view. Spinks wasnt a pushover not even for the inactivity. An active Spinks still wouldnt have lasted against Tyson that night.

      Spinks also knew his time was up and rightfully so by retiring right after.

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      • jack_the_rippuh
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        #23
        Once the unbeaten record was gone so was his will to go on.

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        • spinksjinx
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          #24
          Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
          Once the unbeaten record was gone so was his will to go on.

          No dis*****g that, just cold hard facts.

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          • Double
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            #25
            Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
            He beat some all time greats, so why wouldn't he beat an all-time great?
            name 1? I like Tyson and all, but he soundly failed all his big tests.

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            • Truth
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              #26
              Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
              For single handedly reviving boxing, for going down as one of the greatest heavyweight boxers of all time, and probably the second or third greatest of recent time [Holyfield, Lewis (depends on how you see it.)]..
              Tyson is one of the greatest without a doubt...

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              • jack_the_rippuh
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                #27
                Originally posted by Double
                name 1? I like Tyson and all, but he soundly failed all his big tests.
                Spinks and Holmes - pass his prime, but still an alltime great.

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                • Truth
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                  Spinks and Holmes - pass his prime, but still an alltime great.
                  Tyson from 1985-1990, was great there is no dis*****g that. And you even have to give him credit for winning two titles coming out of jail. Holmes and Spinks were great wins...

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