Well, JabsRstiff..

[spinksjinx]

Ahh come the F*** on, You are telling me the talent Mike Tyson possessed and the cleaning out of the division and being the highest paid boxer and breaking all kinds of records isnt a great career? Sure Tyson's career ended in 1990 but if he retired after the Buster loss people would be beating to a different beat of the drum. I am in noway a huge Tyson fan but what he brought to the sport cant be ignored.

Berbick
Smith
Thomas
Tucker
Tubbs
Holmes
Spinks
Bruno
Ruddock
Seldon


Tyson dismantled these guys, these are the best the division had to offer when Tyson was in his prime. You cant hate on Mike because the opposition was lacking. Tyson made the current champions look like Roy Jones opponents. Tyson cant help it that he came around when the division was lacking. Same goes when the next big heavyweight comes and the division is lacking like it is now.

[Tha Greatest]

Ahh come the F*** on, You are telling me the talent Mike Tyson possessed and the cleaning out of the division and being the highest paid boxer and breaking all kinds of records isnt a great career? Sure Tyson's career ended in 1990 but if he retired after the Buster loss people would be beating to a different beat of the drum. I am in noway a huge Tyson fan but what he brought to the sport cant be ignored.

Berbick
Smith
Thomas
Tucker
Tubbs
Holmes
Spinks
Bruno
Ruddock
Seldon


Tyson dismantled these guys, these are the best the division had to offer when Tyson was in his prime. You cant hate on Mike because the opposition was lacking. Tyson made the current champions look like Roy Jones opponents. Tyson cant help it that he came around when the division was lacking. Same goes when the next big heavyweight comes and the division is lacking like it is now.

Wasn't Spinks close to his prime when he fought Mike Tyson...

I think he was in his prim

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The fact remains that Mike is the youngest man ever to hold the title, for this fact and this fact alonge you have to give him serious credit-in my mind he was great for a period of time and this record is what solidifies it in my mind.

Ask yourself this question...Do you think someone will come along that will break his record of youngest ever?

If the answer is no then you should realize how damn special he was however short it may have been the man was still special.

[spinksjinx]

Wasn't Spinks close to his prime when he fought Mike Tyson...

I think he was in his prim

Yes Michael was still in his prime and it was his 3rd defense after beating Holmes.

[Tha Greatest]

Yes Michael was still in his prime and it was his 3rd defense after beating Holmes.

Ya exactly

People say Spinks was old cuz Tyson knocked him out in round 1..

Tyson just made him look old, and Spinks was a REALLY good heavyweight...damn now that I think of it I really underrated Mike Tyson..

[jabsRstiff]

Mike Tyson was as exciting a fighter as has ever been in the ring.
I vividly remember the days when he first really came into the world's eyes...& it was GREAT time for boxing.
In an era of fat-**** Ali-wannabes (Larry Holmes, was a great fighter.....he's not included).....here comes a pure force.
No robe...no socks....& NO BULL****. His combination of power & speed will never be matched in the heavyweight division again.
He was an absolute phenom. He was also a phenom who fought all the time. Couldn't ask for more out of a heavyweight champ...or any champ for that matter.


But.....he was NEVER unbeatable. He always had limitations. I always thought he'd lose if another heavyweight, with skills & size, would just come in & fight his fight....instead of being terrified. As his opposition became tougher, I could see how frustrated he could get....& I saw how he could be beaten.
His fight with Douglas proved me right.

But......I was annoyed by all of the excuse-makers after that fight. I'm STILL annoyed by all of his whacked fans & their delusional, comic book hero views of the guy.
It wasn't Mike Tyson I wanted to see whacked...it was those fans.

As great as Tyson was for the sport, throughout the mid-late 80's....he was that damaging to it in subsequent years.

[spinksjinx]

Ya exactly

People say Spinks was old cuz Tyson knocked him out in round 1..

Tyson just made him look old, and Spinks was a REALLY good heavyweight...damn now that I think of it I really underrated Mike Tyson..

To say Spinks was old just shows how uneducated people are in there facts. Michael was in his prime and was regarded as the real champion at the time.

I believe that is why it was so devastating when Mike knocked him out cold. Spinks was one hell of a fighter and probably one of the best in that era. While he wasnt a true heavyweight he could fight them for sure. Tyson beat a great fighter in Spinks and nothing should be taken away from that.

[Tha Greatest]

Mike Tyson was as exciting a fighter as has ever been in the ring.
I vividly remember the days when he first really came into the world's eyes...& it was GREAT time for boxing.
In an era of fat-**** Ali-wannabes (Larry Holmes, was a great fighter.....he's not included).....here comes a pure force.
No robe...no socks....& NO BULL****. His combination of power & speed will never be matched in the heavyweight division again.
He was an absolute phenom. He was also a phenom who fought all the time. Couldn't ask for more out of a heavyweight champ...or any champ for that matter.


But.....he was NEVER unbeatable. He always had limitations. I always thought he'd lose if another heavyweight, with skills & size, would just come in & fight his fight....instead of being terrified. As his opposition became tougher, I could see how frustrated he could get....& I saw how he could be beaten.
His fight with Douglas proved me right.

But......I was annoyed by all of the excuse-makers after that fight. I'm STILL annoyed by all of his whacked fans & their delusional, comic book hero views of the guy.
It wasn't Mike Tyson I wanted to see whacked...it was those fans.

As great as Tyson was for the sport, throughout the mid-late 80's....he was that damaging to it in subsequent years.

Yup, I agree with you...

I am not much of a tyson fan myself...

His weakness was guys with heart...Buster beat him fair and square, same with Holyfield, and Lewis, and McBride...

but in the Williams fight if his knee didn't blow out, I think he would've KO'd Williams

[jabsRstiff]

To say Spinks was old just shows how uneducated people are in there facts. Michael was in his prime and was regarded as the real champion at the time.

I believe that is why it was so devastating when Mike knocked him out cold. Spinks was one hell of a fighter and probably one of the best in that era. While he wasnt a true heavyweight he could fight them for sure. Tyson beat a great fighter in Spinks and nothing should be taken away from that.

Some problems.....

Spinks had become an inactive fighter leading up to the Tyson fight.
3 defenses in almost three years.....& a year out before facing Tyson. That's not good.

He was also absolutely terrified, which locked down his abilities & made every Tyson punch that much more damaging.

I was more impressed with tyson's wins over Biggs, Berbick, & Pinklon Thomas

[Tha Greatest]

Some problems.....

Spinks had become an inactive fighter leading up to the Tyson fight.
3 defenses in almost three years.....& a year out before facing Tyson. That's not good.

He was also absolutely terrified, which locked down his abilities & made every Tyson punch that much more damaging.

I was more impressed with tyson's wins over Biggs, Berbick, & Pinklon Thomas

Ya

Spinks wasnt in his TOP prime but he wasn't in his worse either

You just gotta show heart and you can beat Mike Tyson
(also a decent chin)