Floyd Mayweather has made a complete fool out of Pacquio, and I'm not happy.

[.Sakuragi.]

Trust me man, Clottey sort of killed Pacquiao's buzz. I don't want to see it either but it's gonna happen.

I wish pac sees what arum is doing to his career. I am still assuming Pac-Floyd will be made late of 2010.

[Scott9945]

Really? I kinda think Margagrito's gonna take what he thinks is a safer bet and rematch Martinez. I realize Pac would be the biggest payday out there, but if he loses he'll be fighting guys like Clottey!

There is ZERO chance of Margarito choosing to fight Martinez instead of Pacquiao. The only possible reason would be if Margarito simpy can't make 147 anymore. The difference in money is way to big to even give it a second thought.

[j.one]

here's the thing, Manny for whatever reason, Arum, Roach,His Team,His Country or even Manny himself, have succeeded at making a fool out of him. This isn't pointing a finger at any one person, but the fact is they ****ed this whole situation up for Manny and his reputation.

First off, they refused Mosley at 140 Pounds with a 60/40 split in manny's favor with no drug testing and manny could have had his 8 oz gloves and probably whatever venue Top rank and Team Pac wanted being that Mosley was damn near begging them for a fight at any cost. Then Arum Roach Pac and everyone of his fans then began to laugh at the offer saying Mosley was a desperate past his prime no drawing power steroid abuser. Mosley was then vilified by almost the entire boxing community as a money hungry bully.

Next, they went after the Mayweather fight and from the very outset it was always something Arum is lying to the judge or this wasn't agreed to or the money was split or 10 million a pound or yes we will test no we won't, or 14 days 24 days or the needles make me weak or the hatton fight was different etc etc etc...bottom line is he should have taken the test and anyone that encouraged him to not was not thinking of his credibility or legacy at all and it made him look like a fraud that has made millions beating weight drained zombies while juiced up and then fighting in "Events" that looked like more of a fairwell exhibition in which clottey played the hard edged patsy and even tried his Ric flair stumble to sell the man landing at 20% on a stable journey men with no inclination of even attempting to win the fight under any circumstances.

Manny could have fought either man and the event and attention would have been just as big if not bigger and for whatever reason he chose not to. At the end of the day either manny wants it this way or he is nothing more than a slave to Arum and has to do as he's told. Either way fact is he could have had either fight and proved everyone wrong if he wanted to and he didn't.

[mandirigma]

Nice one TS.

[paulf]

Either way fact is he could have had either fight and proved everyone wrong if he wanted to and he didn't.

Summed up my entire post man. Props

[the gent]

that part where it said, "if somebody had said a year ago, pacquiao would turn down a floyd fight, and floyd would challenge shane mosley, they'd be red k'd and laughed into oblivion," was very true.


while i don't think mosley-mayweather will surpass mayweather-de la hoya, i do expect this to be the biggest fight since then. i expect this fight to do between 1.5-2, probably closer to 2. that said, i wouldn't be totally shocked if it came close to 2.3 or 2.4. for pacquiao to be labeled as the "top draw" in the sport, he ain't touching those kind of numbers.

he had a chance to make one of the few fights in the sport the world would pay attention to, and he declined. hopefully after saturday, he and top rank will realize it's worth making.

i find it hard to believe pacquiao fans are actually looking forward to a pacquiao-margarito fight, or a pacquiao-cotto II. why?

First of all, he did not challenge Mosley, Mosley made the challenge.

[paulf]

First of all, he did not challenge Mosley, Mosley made the challenge.

Mosely challenged May back in september and he didn't accept. After the Berto fight fell through is when Floyd picked Shane as the replacement for Manny.

[j.one]

mosley-mayweather is not the biggest fight of the decade. it's a manufactured superfight just like mayweather vs hatton or marquez were. superfights are between great fighters in the same division in their prime or a great fighter moving up 1 division to take on another great fighter. a 38 year old mosley vs mayweather is a decent fight but oh what the powers of marketing can do.

The **** it isn't, this has been the fight for atleast 5 or 6 years for real. Mosley has a better chance at actually beating Floyd than manny does. manny will be lucky if he can get to the 7th round, he cannot box for **** and would look like a fool until he was knocked out the box coming in off balance. Mosley vs Mayweather is the best legitimate fight boxing can offer, everything else is just an "EVENT"

[FLY TY]

I think you're right as usual. It would be an action fight, but we just got a Pac fight we didn't want. And it doesn't really mean ****.

Ya know, Kelly took the loser of Williams/Martinez and really didn't get much **** for it due to Martinez's credibility. If Floyd wins, and Floyd/Pac still isn't made, which fight would you rather see? Pac/Mosely or Pac/Margarito? They would both be pretty big.

neither.


the point is, it's time for manny to stop fighting other fighters' "left-overs."

[daggum]

give me some examples of what you think a "super," or "mega" fight is....

here you have 2 of the top 3 fighters in the division.....1 is undefeated, 1 is coming off the biggest win of his career, and is recognized as the #1 WW.

aside from mayweather-pacquiao, i can't think of another fight that beats this one.

yea but you probably thought mayweather vs oscar was a superfight. big names maybe but not compelling match ups. i don't remember leonard, hearns, duran, or hagler being in any super fights with a 38 year old. and people keep saying mosley is recognized as the number 1 welterweight but he's not. is lying a prerequisite for hyping floyd fights? do they forget pacquiao even exists?