The logic of PAC must be hiding something because he refused a 14 day cutoff date...

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... doesn't make sense to me(now that I know what I know). Even if Phony Boy didn't budge on the cutoff dates.


For one, the only way a cheating athlete could get caught is if he continued to cheat disregarding the fact that tests will be administered at a certain point.

The fact that both parties would have had full knowledge when the tests will start and end, even if there were no cutoff dates !! It gives the cheater more than enough time to cleanse his system and collect that multi-mllion dollar paycheck !!

USADA might be the one doing the testing, but, it's not exactly how they usually test, the testing period is a small one. Not year-round, like they do with the Olympic athletes.

[Bhopreign]

Doesnt make any sense.

[jrosales13]

Doesnt make any sense.

Why did you bump it up? You should of just the this **** die...

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Doesnt make any sense.

Bro, the thought of "PAC must be hiding something" because he refused on a cutoff date. Does not make sense.

He would've known well ahead of time that he's gonna be tested, unless he's stup*d enough and decides to risk it and still goes through with the testing.

All a cheater has to do is clean out his system(if someone was a cheat), take the tests, and collect the paycheck. What, he couldn't have done that? Conte already said, that it only takes a matter hours to flush the system and the rest just several days(3-4 days tops)

[boxing2106]

its called heavy training fo da fight according to him

[Reloaded]

Answer me this ,,,,

1) Testing was known by Roach and Arum in the very first draft put on the table ,,,, Roach said no problems to a 5 day cut of point ,,,, this was righting the beginning .

Now how does it come to be at the business meeting that , other demands are being made by Pacs team ,, why would Arum make other demands when the deal breaker is already on the table and verbally agreed to by the trainer weeks earlier ,,,,,,, thats very strange , they tried to make Floyd pull out of the fight from the very beginning ,,, Arum we will not except anything but 50% something everybody said Floyd would never do , take even pay ,,, Floyd agrees ,,, then the ring gloves , Floyd agrees , then the silly 10 mill forfeit think Floyd would never except something so obviously bull**** , Floyd agrees ,,,,, now they pull the test and totally backflip on what they said earlier ,,,,, Pac ducked this fight , for what ever reason I dont give a **** , but Arum did everything he could to get out of the fight and signed his own fighter in a day ,,, they ducked fighting Floyd and they ducked Mosley only with Mosley they were honest by saying he was too good a fighter , with Floyd they a lying out their ass and Arum is a cunning rat .

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To Reloaded,

It still doesn't matter what was said, this and that. My thing is, how can people say that PAC must be hiding something due to the fact that he refused a 14 day cutoff ?

I mean, why would PAC be scared of getting caught when he knows well in advance he's gonna be tested, it's basic common sense, man

The fact that they talked about OST's would've served as a warning to a would be cheater, duh !!

[Bhopreign]

To Reloaded,

It still doesn't matter what was said, this and that. My thing is, how can people say that PAC must be hiding something due to the fact that he refused a 14 day cutoff ?

I mean, why would PAC be scared of getting caught when he knows well in advance he's gonna be tested, it's basic common sense, man

The fact that they talked about OST's would've served as a warning to a would be cheater, duh !!

Simple, because with 14 days you have plenty of time to clean out your system. If you arnt hiding anything you wouldnt mind being tested whenever.

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Simple, because with 14 days you have plenty of time to clean out your system. If you arnt hiding anything you wouldnt mind being tested whenever.

Dude, you're simply not getting what I'm trying to get at...

#1 Had this fight been agreed to(with the OST's), PAC and Phony Boy would know the general time frame that the OST's would be going on.

#2 Having that knowledge, if indeed one of 'em or hell, even if both of 'em were cheating in the past, do you not think, they would take action to stop doing what they were doing in the past, and keep clean ?

- unless of course, a fighter decides to take a risk and continue to cheat.

The main question i have for those that think PAC is cheating by not agreeing to the 14 day cutoff, Why would he be scared of the thought getting caught, when he would've known well in advance that he's gonna get tested, duh !!

[cixthree]

Answer me this ,,,,

1) Testing was known by Roach and Arum in the very first draft put on the table ,,,, Roach said no problems to a 5 day cut of point ,,,, this was righting the beginning .

Now how does it come to be at the business meeting that , other demands are being made by Pacs team ,, why would Arum make other demands when the deal breaker is already on the table and verbally agreed to by the trainer weeks earlier ,,,,,,, thats very strange , they tried to make Floyd pull out of the fight from the very beginning ,,, Arum we will not except anything but 50% something everybody said Floyd would never do , take even pay ,,, Floyd agrees ,,, then the ring gloves , Floyd agrees , then the silly 10 mill forfeit think Floyd would never except something so obviously bull**** , Floyd agrees ,,,,, now they pull the test and totally backflip on what they said earlier ,,,,, Pac ducked this fight , for what ever reason I dont give a **** , but Arum did everything he could to get out of the fight and signed his own fighter in a day ,,, they ducked fighting Floyd and they ducked Mosley only with Mosley they were honest by saying he was too good a fighter , with Floyd they a lying out their ass and Arum is a cunning rat .

To Reloaded,

It still doesn't matter what was said, this and that. My thing is, how can people say that PAC must be hiding something due to the fact that he refused a 14 day cutoff ?

I mean, why would PAC be scared of getting caught when he knows well in advance he's gonna be tested, it's basic common sense, man

The fact that they talked about OST's would've served as a warning to a would be cheater, duh !!

The test was already on the draft, Team Pac verbally accepted it.

Ok, say Pac went thru with the test as presented, no holes, no gaps, no windows all the way to fight night. No way can people say Pac was juicing the way USADA would've been on both guys.
They fight, Floyd CLOWNS Pac. Makes him look worse than he did JMM, now what?
If Floyd destroyed Pac, made it obvious that this is not the same guy uve seen, Pac is exposed.

There was no way out of testing, so they blamed the testing. And trust me, if Pac was juicing but couldn't for the Floyd fight. Floyd would have REALLY made it obvious, clowning, slippin and sliding, pot shotting, talking to the crowd during rounds, laughing...
They knew this and didn't risk it