Rank your top six supermiddleweights

[Bhopreign]

I know, but I believed that to be a bad styles matchup for Abraham. I see him beating Froch and still view him as one of the favorites in the tournament. But I do flip a coin with that one, it was hard for me.

I also have Froch ahead of Kessler.

This is just my personal belief of how these fighters stack up.

What does being a bad styles matchup have to do with it, thats the whole point of boxing. He lost to Dirrell, how can he be above him? I could see your reasoning if the fight was close, but it wasnt, it was a wide decision.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I just explained it Champ. This is how I personally believe these fighters stack up.

Same reason why I view Floyd as #1 P4P. I just believe him to be the best. My opinion.

[B]Like you say Bute is #1, and I say that's laughable because Bute has fought exclusively in his hometown[/B] and hasn't beaten anyone as good as the guys in the super six IMO.

Bute is undefeated, and has beaten More quality oponents than Ward who is the other guy you could claim as #1 and he also fighst exclisively in Oakland.

Divisional rankings are not the same as P4P Ranings and you are threating them as the same.

No way should abraham be over Dirrel or Dirrel over Froch of froch over Kessler or Kessler over Ward

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

What does being a bad styles matchup have to do with it, thats the whole point of boxing. He lost to Dirrell, how can he be above him? I could see your reasoning if the fight was close, but it wasnt, it was a wide decision.

Co sign on the bold!!!!

[dans]

What does being a bad styles matchup have to do with it, thats the whole point of boxing. He lost to Dirrell, how can he be above him? I could see your reasoning if the fight was close, but it wasnt, it was a wide decision.

Vernon Forrest beat Shane Mosley twice. Do you rate Forrest better all time?

Ricardo Mayorga beat Forrest twice. Was Mayorga a better fighter than Forrest?

[daggum]

1. ward-great adaptive fighter like a young hopkins with really good speed and ring iq not to mention he can switch it up to southpaw which he should do against green cause simms clowned him when he fought southpaw.

2. bute-big and long and is great at placing punches with great power. decent resume of bika, berrio, zuniga, miranda, and andrade. this is no calzaghe title defense run of pudwills, mcyintres and branko sobots.

3. direll-good boxing and speed but seems fragile

4. abraham-great power and knows how to turn it on late but is mr. complainy pants

5. froch-just lost a close fight to kessler but has a better resume than kessler and a higher upside unless abraham kills him.

6. kessler-didn't look very good in his last 3 fights against top competition and his subpar resume might have hidden this from us all along. has an easy fight vs green next but after that don't see him doing much.

7. jeff lacy-the next tyson

8. stiegletz-andrade and berrio both knocked him out but he found the easy path to being a champion and will probably milk it for all it's worth sven ottke style.

9. bika-he's basically retired but he did knockout manfredo legit. he didn't just slap his gloves for 10 seconds until the ref saved his life.

10. allan green-allan and malignaggi show you the true power of speech. just by talking loud they both landed big fights even though they have crap resumes. malignaggi hasn't beaten a legit 140 pounder since the first lovemore ndou fight(ngoudgo beat him imo) and green's best win is losing to miranda while constipated.

[Ryn0]

1. Ward
2. Bute
3. Kessler
4. Dirrell
5. Abraham
6. Froch

[Bhopreign]

Vernon Forrest beat Shane Mosley twice. Do you rate Forrest better all time?

Ricardo Mayorga beat Forrest twice. Was Mayorga a better fighter than Forrest?

The question isnt based on all-time, its about the current rankings. During the time Forrest beat Mosley and Forrest lost to Mayorga, during those times you would have to have Forrest ranked higher than Mosley and Mayorga ranked higher than Forrest, as after those wins they were in that division.

[dans]

Bute is undefeated, and has beaten More quality oponents than Ward who is the other guy you could claim as #1 and he also fighst exclisively in Oakland.

Divisional rankings are not the same as P4P Ranings and you are threating them as the same.

No way should abraham be over Dirrel or Dirrel over Froch of froch over Kessler or Kessler over Ward

Haha okay. I was wondering why everyone is so bent out of shape about my rankings. Mine were just my opinion on who is best. If you want divisional rankings that way, then I believe it's:

1. Ward
2. Kessler
3. Bute
4. Dirrell
5. Abraham
6. Froch

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

The question isnt based on all-time, its about the current rankings. During the time Forrest beat Mosley and Forrest lost to Mayorga, during those times you would have to have Forrest ranked higher than Mosley and Mayorga ranked higher than Forrest, as after those wins they were in that division.

Co sign!!!!!!! End of!!/

[dans]

The question isnt based on all-time, its about the current rankings. During the time Forrest beat Mosley and Forrest lost to Mayorga, during those times you would have to have Forrest ranked higher than Mosley and Mayorga ranked higher than Forrest, as after those wins they were in that division.

I get where you're coming from.

These rankings were just my personal opinion, not actual rankings.