Both Froch and Kessler are tailor made for Kelly Pavlik

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  • Khmelnytsky
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    #21
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    Kessler owns Pavlik, clearly. He showed fluid movement and a great body attack against Froch, and that would really trouble Pavlik. Froch and Pavlik is a really good fight but Froch would mess Pavlik up with his jab the whole fight and wear him down.

    And Paul Williams would get beaten up by any top flight super middleweight. If he put on the weight really well I could see him staying busy outside to beat Abraham, but even that is really a stretch.
    No way could PW handle SMW punches imo.

    Originally posted by skullduggery
    kessler is overrated.... kelly pavlik would knock him out in 8 rounds... kelly pavlik will never lose to a fighter that isnt slick, and froch/kessler arent.... and kessler's movement was far from great...
    Kessler has more than enough movement to bother Pavlik, offensivly is better than Kelly and probably has the best chin at SMW.

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    • skullduggery
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      #22
      Originally posted by Clegg
      Yeah, he cancels his fights with fake injuries instead, which is much better.

      When Pavlik agrees to a fight, then gets told that the venue has been changed, maybe you can draw a comparison. Until then, Froch is still the guy who has gone to his opponent's backyard to face guys who were favoured to beat him, and Pavlik is the guy who hasn't had a worthwhile win for more than two years and who has never shown a willingness to fight in Germany or against Abraham.
      kelly pavlik has een trying to fight both sturm and abraham since he got the ****in belt. two germans....

      everybody in the super six has to fight in their opponents back yard.... so why is he bitching?????

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      • skullduggery
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        #23
        Originally posted by Khmelnytsky
        No way could PW handle SMW punches imo.



        Kessler has more than enough movement to bother Pavlik, offensivly is better than Kelly and probably has the best chin at SMW.
        i think that kelly's power would be restored without having to cut that extra 8 lbs. it would be interesting to see.

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        • mrgreenfingers
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          #24
          Originally posted by skullduggery
          carl froch isnt destroying anybody, the ***** is scared to fight outside of the uk!
          ohhh **** up he travelled to fight JT in the U.S and went to denmark to fight Kess, where has Pav had all his fights???? Ummmm?

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          • skullduggery
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            #25
            ummmm ok?? eveyone has to travel in the super six... hes the only one bitching about it.

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              #26
              Originally posted by skullduggery
              kelly pavlik has een trying to fight both sturm and abraham since he got the ****in belt. two germans....

              everybody in the super six has to fight in their opponents back yard.... so why is he bitching?????
              He's bitching cos there is/was an agreement already in place to have the fight in the UK and AA/Sautherland wants to change it to Germany.

              U expect him to say "yeah, no problem i'll gladly give up the home advantage i was promised in a fight that decides my future in the tournament against a fighter as good as AA" even though not one single fighter has won away from home in this tourny to date?

              Froch's balls>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pavliks balls (well what he has left of them sinnce hopkins took them away from him)

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                #27
                I think both would beat him....

                Froch would be close, but Froch is a big, strong Supermiddle, Pavlik hasn't shown the ability to fight well above 160 IMO. And, to me, Kessler is a bigger, stronger, better version of Pavlik.

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                • mrgreenfingers
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by skullduggery
                  never heard a kelly pavlik statement saying hell cancel a fight if hes not at home.... just saying....

                  when kelly pavlik had a chance to face a euro champion, the euro champion bitches up, and move to another weight class....

                  dont make it seem like carl froch is having a more challenging career than kelly pavlik, because thats a dumbass thought... anyone can see that carl froch wont be around long enough to be undisputed. kelly pavlik has two loses to two of the best fighters today... kessler has two losses the only two true threats hes ever faced.. carl froch has gotten luck in his only two big wins (home town decision, and last second ko)... there is no foundation to make ur case for these two fighters beating pavlik...
                  thats because theres already been an agreement between the froch and abraham camps

                  Ehhh, pavik has also lost the two best fighters hes faced, had was also completely dominated in both

                  And a KO is never lucky, he wore him and Ko'ed him not lucky and pascal is also a very good win make that 3 big wins and how many has pavlik had??? not many more.
                  Last edited by mrgreenfingers; 04-25-2010, 02:04 PM.

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                  • skullduggery
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by gingeralbino
                    He's bitching cos there is/was an agreement already in place to have the fight in the UK and AA/Sautherland wants to change it to Germany.

                    U expect him to say "yeah, no problem i'll gladly give up the home advantage i was promised in a fight that decides my future in the tournament against a fighter as good as AA" even though not one single fighter has won away from home in this tourny to date?

                    Froch's balls>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pavliks balls (well what he has left of them sinnce hopkins took them away from him)
                    lol and thats not a ***** move at all....

                    idk about u, but if im a fighter, i KNOW im gonna win, no matter where we fight.. the fact that froch is absolutely unwilling to fight aa in germany tells me that hes SCARED, which makes him a *****.... period.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by skullduggery
                      kelly pavlik has een trying to fight both sturm and abraham since he got the ****in belt. two germans....
                      This is nonsense. You clearly live in your own world of make-believe.

                      Originally posted by skullduggery
                      everybody in the super six has to fight in their opponents back yard.... so why is he bitching?????
                      So far, the home fighter has won every fight. Froch-AA was arranged for the UK, and now suddenly AA's people are trying to change that. It's hardly a surprise that Froch is going to be a bit annoyed that they are trying to change the venue of his fight without his consent.

                      Oh, and you're wrong (again) about everyone having to travel. Ward doesn't have to travel at all.

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