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  • And Still
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    #31
    Originally posted by Precision
    I never said Roger's style is garbage.

    I was just stating that ****m's work in between rounds is more interesting so to speak.

    I admire roger's training abilities even if he is abit of a clown.
    You are still doing it. You are bigging up Naazim, and denigrating Roger. When Roger CLEARLY has the greater accomplishments.

    That makes no sense. You are getting to *******ian levels of subjectivity now.

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    • And Still
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      #32
      Originally posted by Erik18
      And you are a butthurt *****...
      In the absence of facts, or boxing knowledge, say stuff like this.

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      • Doorag
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        #33
        I thought the towel flinging and the dinner conversation about pacquiao where the best part of the show. The rest of it kind of ******.
        Last edited by Doorag; 04-25-2010, 09:59 AM. Reason: grammar :(

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        • SugarRoyJones
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          #34
          Originally posted by And Still
          I'm saying that some perspective is necesary. Some of these guys are tasting Naazim's pre-cum, when the guy hasn't shown that he can develop a fighter. The tough part of training is taking a raw prospect or a young guy with talent and leading him to the top.

          Training a current top 5 p4per (and former #1 p4per) to a good win isn't indicative of being an elite trainer.

          Hell, I give Sergio Martinez' trainer more credit than Naaz.

          Roger Mayweather took an Olympian and amateur champion to the top of the sport. A champion in his second year. And every year since.
          Naazim Richardson had an Olympian and amateur champion. That guy is now a 30 year old sparring partner.

          If Naazim is so great, explain to me why Lamont Peterson is a championship-level fighter, and Rock Allen is on the BumFights channel on YouTube.


          As far as Rock goes that's just one of those things where the guy probably just doesnt have the personal drive to be a champion. If you give him a guy like say Andre Dirrell (who hasn't done **** yet) I bet Naaz would make him an unbeatable killer. He's still new to this big time training thing, but when you hear the man speak you hear the same kind of logic you hear from a guy like Freddie Roach or Manny Steward. It's easy to recognize that the man sees the big picture and that makes him a good trainer.

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          • Pugilistic™
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            #35
            Originally posted by And Still
            You are still doing it. You are bigging up Naazim, and denigrating Roger. When Roger CLEARLY has the greater accomplishments.

            That makes no sense. You are getting to *******ian levels of subjectivity now.
            I'm not bigging up ****m. I just prefer his style of training to Roger's. Thats my opinion and i'm entilted to it.

            Roger has the greater accomplishments no doubt, and i just wrote that i admired Roger for his achivements and his ability as a trainer.

            I just prefer ****m as a trainer and a person.

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            • And Still
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              #36
              Originally posted by SugarRoyJones
              As far as Rock goes that's just one of those things where the guy probably just doesnt have the personal drive to be a champion. If you give him a guy like say Andre Dirrell (who hasn't done **** yet) I bet Naaz would make him an unbeatable killer. He's still new to this big time training thing, but when you hear the man speak you hear the same kind of logic you hear from a guy like Freddie Roach or Manny Steward. It's easy to recognize that the man sees the big picture and that makes him a good trainer.
              Jack Loew took an unathletic, leadfooted, semi-alcoholic goofy guy from Youngstown to the middleweight championship of the world.

              Naazim Richardson had one of the most decorated amateurs in recent memory. Fast, athletic, dedicated. That guy is now a 30 year old sparring partner.

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              • And Still
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                • araindon
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by And Still
                  Exactly.

                  His sons were great amateurs and are now nearly 30 year old journeymen.

                  Well done, Naaz.

                  ....BTW, who trained hopkins for Calzaghe and Jones?
                  Freddie Roach trained him for Calzaghe.

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                  • clmags12
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by And Still
                    In the absence of facts, or boxing knowledge, say stuff like this.
                    And *****s try to act like their "boxing knowledge" is greater than all.

                    Just stop with the disrespect of Naazim and his resume, have you done better? If no, you need to stfu. Listen to Naazim when he speaks about the towel technique, it just keeps them on their toes when they don't expect it.

                    Roger did not train Floyd in the beginning, it was Sr. And I'm sure Roger and Floyds pad routine is the greatest thing since cake and ice cream.

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                    • Heeb
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                      #40
                      I forget And Still is a top trainer and can judge training techniques better than professional trainers.

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