The Heavyweight Division is coming back: No Thx to the Klits.

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  • fireman_ek50
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    #51
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    Even the very skilled Ali went to war when he had to his fights were very exciting.

    His argument holds no weight once you realize that Floyd is not bigger and stronger then everyone he faces and he doesnt have 1 punch power in both hands.

    I like My Heavies to ****.
    i could see what u mean here..ok

    ali and frazier, even holmes did **** **** **** lol

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #52
      Originally posted by rod_serrs
      Yeah I agree. I would also have to say that the dimensions of the Klits make for boring fights and they can't be held accountable for that. They are not going to fight on the inside, so the whole jab-jab punch thing is all they really need to keep off these much smaller dudes. Haye/Adamek would be a whole lot more exciting as they would have the chance to really get at each other. O, the Haye/Valuev fight ****** because of my first reason. Dimensions made for a crappy fight, Haye did his thing but looked bad.
      Right. This is all Im saying.

      Klit will be Klit he aint changing. Thats fine. I just want different match ups.

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      • bklynboy
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        #53
        Originally posted by cupocity303
        Skills pay the bills, Floyd is doing what he has to do to stay undefeated despite criticism of him being BORING by alot of fans. And Wlad is doing what he has to do to keep winning despite criticism of being boring.

        I think that the Ks are a lot better than what their hater's think. But I think they should open up sooner.

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        • cupocity303
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          #54
          Originally posted by bklynboy
          No but they should open up a little more. It makes sense that they don't go to the body as that brings their head into play, but both, especially Wladimir need to unload their right more.

          Yes, it would mean taking a chance. And yes I understand that they might want to soften up an opponent for 4-6 rounds.

          But damn, they have to open up before the 12th round. Chambers should have been put away like that in the 6th or 7th round.

          Now, to the K's credit, when they came up they were going for the KO early. Then they got shocked by a couple losses and got scared.

          They have money now. They have fame and belts. Now's the time to build a legacy and they need to start opening up earlier than they've been doing.
          Why change something that's working for you perfectly?

          THe Klits are steadly piling up points and putting rounds in the bank in case the Ko doesn't come. They have found the perfect reciple to success, it's not their fault nobody can break it.

          If you perfect something that translates into you dominating every round in every fight, you don't get away from that no matter what the criticism is. This is why I will defend Floyd to the fullest every time someone calls him boring and I will be consistant and defend The Klitschko's the same way.

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            #55
            Originally posted by cupocity303
            Again, i'm mentioning Floyd because IT'S INTERRELATED, what's so hard to understand about that?

            This isn't about Steward it's about the main point here and that point is SKILL. Wlad's one punch ko power has nothing to do with it, he is dominant because he has found a way to be more sucessfull, who are you to hold that against him if you have no problem with the way Floyd fights despite criticsm by alot of fans for being boring?

            Skills pay the bills, Floyd is doing what he has to do to stay undefeated despite criticism of him being BORING by alot of fans. And Wlad is doing what he has to do to keep winning despite criticism of being boring.

            Now I am beating a dead horse, so i'll end it with this unless you have some new worthy points worth responding to, which I doubt.
            Jesus Christ man what is it with you?

            Im not asking Wlad to fight aggressive. Im not asking him to change his style. I dont give a **** if he changes his style or not.

            That doesnt mean I have to watch it? It doesnt mean I cant watch Adamek-Haye instead.

            Just because I find Floyds amazing skill and technique exciting doesnt mean I have to find watching a guy who is bigger, faster, stronger then everyone he fights with KO power in both hands and who JABS for 12 rounds exciting.

            I rather see Adamek-Haye since when is that a crime?

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              #56
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              Jesus Christ man what is it with you?

              Im not asking Wlad to fight aggressive. Im not asking him to change his style. I dont give a **** if he changes his style or not.

              That doesnt mean I have to watch it? It doesnt mean I cant watch Adamek-Haye instead.

              Just because I find Floyds amazing skill and technique exciting doesnt mean I have to find watching a guy who is bigger, faster, stronger then everyone he fights with KO power in both hands and who JABS for 12 rounds exciting.

              I rather see Adamek-Haye since when is that a crime?
              It's not a crime. But it's also not a crime for me to point out your hypocrisy, which you will never admit to, of course.

              Now you didn't expect everybody to come in this thread and agree with you, did ya?

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                #57
                Originally posted by cupocity303
                Why change something that's working for you perfectly?

                THe Klits are steadly piling up points and putting rounds in the bank in case the Ko doesn't come. They have found the perfect reciple to success, it's not their fault nobody can break it.

                If you perfect something that translates into you dominating every round in every fight, you don't get away from that no matter what the criticism is. This is why I will defend Floyd to the fullest every time someone calls him boring and I will be consistant and defend The Klitschko's the same way.
                No doubt. I don't see anyone out there today who can take on the Ks. They have the perfect strategy for the people in front of them. They get to win, make money, have the girls, keep the belt and their brains. I don't blame them one bit. If I were to advise them I would say keep doing what you're doing.

                But I'm also a fan. And I'm speaking now as a fan. I would like to see them open up earlier. Chambers should have been put to sleep in the 6th or 7th round.

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                • rod_serrs
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Jesus Christ man what is it with you?

                  Im not asking Wlad to fight aggressive. Im not asking him to change his style. I dont give a **** if he changes his style or not.

                  That doesnt mean I have to watch it? It doesnt mean I cant watch Adamek-Haye instead.

                  Just because I find Floyds amazing skill and technique exciting doesnt mean I have to find watching a guy who is bigger, faster, stronger then everyone he fights with KO power in both hands and who JABS for 12 rounds exciting.

                  I rather see Adamek-Haye since when is that a crime?
                  I'll just add that its also more than just punching display with Floyd. Its fun watching Floyd's defense and crazy reflexes. Counter punches also give you something else to watch. Whereas the Klits are just jab-jab, ha you can't reach my head, jab-jab, punch, still can't physically reach me........7-12 rounds later KO.

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                  • fireman_ek50
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by rod_serrs
                    Do you see anyone in the current heavyweight picture with skill sets that can even come close to the mentioned boxers? I wait while you do.
                    hold up hold up hold up lol....

                    i HAD to say something, plain out said "no one cares about heavies having skill"...common now

                    thats ur opinion if u think that no one cares about heavies having skill lol...

                    **** 50,000 people in europe watch wlad do work on chambers...but i dont think that many people cared...nah

                    thats ur opinion...relax...u said something...i disagreed...keep it moving

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                    • rod_serrs
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by fireman_ek50
                      hold up hold up hold up lol....

                      i HAD to say something, plain out said "no one cares about heavies having skill"...common now

                      thats ur opinion if u think that no one cares about heavies having skill lol...

                      **** 50,000 people in europe watch wlad do work on chambers...but i dont think that many people cared...nah

                      thats ur opinion...relax...u said something...i disagreed...keep it moving
                      The Klits are celebrities in Germany not Europe. If they fought anywhere else the number would be much slimmer. Don't you ever notice that house fighters always have a big crowd? If they were straight up punchers with their record they would skill still have a fan base. Their skill is completely irrelevent to the fact that they have a large fan base in again Germany where they are the best thing since the hamburger. And I didn't say no one care about heavies not having skill just that when you see a heavyweight fight you expecting a KO aren't you?

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