Tonight's Kessler (+ fair ref) beats Ward.

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  • Rosseboi
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    #21
    Originally posted by swizz
    dude it was a good fight but very sloppy just dont get carried away
    Maybe I am getting carried away but this Kessler was improved on the last - anyone disagree?

    Anyway I think they'll rematch down the line. Hopefully ina neutral location too so that'll settle this debate

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    • PittyPat
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      #22
      Ward trounces Kessler every single time, if they were to fight again.

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      • swizz
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        #23
        Originally posted by Rosseboi
        Maybe I am getting carried away but this Kessler was improved on the last - anyone disagree?

        Anyway I think they'll rematch down the line. Hopefully ina neutral location too so that'll settle this debate
        yea he improve ill give you that but ward is too much of an athlete for kessler

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        • Scott9945
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          #24
          Kessler isn't the fighter he used to be, and Ward only figures to improve. I'd pick Ward, even in Denmark. Just a terrible style matchup for the Dane.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #25
            Originally posted by Rosseboi
            Yeah he does guys. Laugh, mock me all you like but Kessler had dramatically improved footwork this fight as well as output and angles. Versus Ward he seemed hesitant and the fact Ward got away with hall manner of holding certainly didn't help his confidence - kessler is a gentleman's fighter.

            Don't misunderstand me, Ward beat Kessler. It was in the US and he did what he needed to do; fdair play to Ward but if tonight's Kessler fought Ward on a no spoiling playing field he'd beat him handidly I believe.
            i dunno, kessler might still lose.

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            • Heru
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              #26
              Originally posted by Rosseboi
              Yeah he does guys. Laugh, mock me all you like but Kessler had dramatically improved footwork this fight as well as output and angles. Versus Ward he seemed hesitant and the fact Ward got away with hall manner of holding certainly didn't help his confidence - kessler is a gentleman's fighter.

              Don't misunderstand me, Ward beat Kessler. It was in the US and he did what he needed to do; fdair play to Ward but if tonight's Kessler fought Ward on a no spoiling playing field he'd beat him handidly I believe.
              That was the exact same Kessler I saw when I studied his past fights before placing a bet on him. Watch his fight with Mundine.

              Kessler was no different from the first Ward fight, the biggest difference is that Froch let him build confidence in the 7th and it sustained through the rest of the fight. Ward took away Kessler's confidence and kept it.

              Styles make motha****ing fights and will continue too. This **** is chess not checkers.

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              • The Hammer
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                #27
                Originally posted by Rosseboi
                Yeah he does guys. Laugh, mock me all you like but Kessler had dramatically improved footwork this fight as well as output and angles. Versus Ward he seemed hesitant and the fact Ward got away with hall manner of holding certainly didn't help his confidence - kessler is a gentleman's fighter.

                Don't misunderstand me, Ward beat Kessler. It was in the US and he did what he needed to do; fdair play to Ward but if tonight's Kessler fought Ward on a no spoiling playing field he'd beat him handidly I believe.
                Kessler was definitely better tonight. If there was a rematch in a neutral country without Ward's crooked referee, he would likely defeat Ward.

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                • PittyPat
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Kid Lavigne
                  If there was a rematch in a neutral country without Ward's crooked referee, he would likely defeat Ward.
                  What would be so different, fight-wise? Ward was making Kessler look incredibly poor regardless of the head clashes and whatnot. He's simply a better boxer.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Kid Lavigne
                    Kessler was definitely better tonight. If there was a rematch in a neutral country without Ward's crooked referee, he would likely defeat Ward.
                    I agree. It's interesting to hear that Ward is working with Victor Conte. Maybe that's why he won't fight outside of Oakland, well besides Detroit, where he won't get tested anyway.

                    I think there's more to Ward, much like Dirrell. These guys are hiding something.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Top Cat
                      I agree. It's interesting to hear that Ward is working with Victor Conte. Maybe that's why he won't fight outside of Oakland, well besides Detroit, where he won't get tested anyway.

                      I think there's more to Ward, much like Dirrell. These guys are hiding something.
                      yeah, i don't like that conte is in ward's corner.

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