Name me heavyweights who dominated their era the same as/more than Lennox Lewis.

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  • bklynboy
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    #31
    Originally posted by Soir


    Thats what separates Lewis from all the other Heavyweight champions. He defeated everyone he ever faced, including the dominant guy of the next era. You cant get much better than that.
    So did Johnson, Louis and Ali (until they were past prime)

    Give Lewis his due. He knew when to quit and to stay gone unlike many others.

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    • minasyan
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      #32
      Originally posted by Soir
      The hardest thing to do in Boxing is to face the guy who defeated you!
      Foreman never rematched Ali

      Wlad never rematched Ross Puritty

      Vitali never rematched Chris Byrd

      And Tyson never rematched Buster Douglas!


      Lennox is above all of the previous names mentioned because he was not afraid to get in the ring with the man who dethroned him. That takes a lot of guts. Guts Tyson doesnt have.
      Lennox should have given Vitali a rematch

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        #33
        Originally posted by NO FEAR
        Is there anyone?
        as good as lennox lewis?

        jess willard
        james j. corbett
        john l. sullivan
        wladimir klitschko
        vitali klitschko
        ingemar johanssen
        jimmy ellis
        max schmeling
        max baer
        jack sharkey
        primo carnera
        ezzard charles
        jersey joe walcott
        shannon briggs
        ernie terrell
        greg page
        michael moorer
        tony tubbs
        bonecrusher smith
        bruce seldon
        ruslan chagaev
        nikolay valuev
        tony tucker
        michael spinks
        john ruiz
        hasim rahman
        chris byrd
        roy jones jr.
        mike tyson
        frank bruno
        bruce seldon
        tim witherspoon
        leon spinks
        ken norton
        pinklon thomas
        trevor berbick
        evander holyfield
        rid**** bowe
        larry holmes
        muhammad ali
        george foreman
        joe frazier
        sonny liston
        floyd patterson
        rocky marciano
        joe louis
        james braddock
        jim jeffries
        jack dempsey
        jack johnson
        bob fitszimmons

        that's just off the top of my head.

        i'm sure there's a lot more.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Sexy Beast
          as good as lennox lewis?

          jess willard
          james j. corbett
          john l. sullivan
          wladimir klitschko
          vitali klitschko
          ingemar johanssen
          jimmy ellis
          max schmeling
          max baer
          jack sharkey
          primo carnera
          ezzard charles
          jersey joe walcott
          shannon briggs
          ernie terrell
          greg page
          michael moorer
          tony tubbs
          bonecrusher smith
          bruce seldon
          ruslan chagaev
          nikolay valuev
          tony tucker
          michael spinks
          john ruiz
          hasim rahman
          chris byrd
          roy jones jr.
          mike tyson
          frank bruno
          bruce seldon
          tim witherspoon
          leon spinks
          ken norton
          pinklon thomas
          trevor berbick
          evander holyfield
          rid**** bowe
          larry holmes
          muhammad ali
          george foreman
          joe frazier
          sonny liston
          floyd patterson
          rocky marciano
          joe louis
          james braddock
          jim jeffries
          jack dempsey
          jack johnson
          bob fitszimmons

          that's just off the top of my head.

          i'm sure there's a lot more.
          wow, and I thought I was tough on Lewis

          Frank Bruno,
          Tony Tucker,
          Shannon Briggs
          Michael Grant,
          David Tua,
          Hasim Rahman

          were quality wins

          Evander Holyfield was an excellent win

          Klitschko was also a very good win but the cut and no rematch mars that win.

          Lewis probably makes it into the TOP 10 -- which, for all of you who think I putting him down, is pretty f**king good.

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            #35
            Originally posted by bklynboy
            That was Tyson past his prime, mental prime that is. By the Frank Bruno fight Tyson had abandoned his jab; his bob and weave was gone. By this point he believed the hype and was a shadow of what he had been.

            At this point, when he was no longer a "boxer" but a brawler he would have been beaten by ALL top quality heavyweights from any era.
            he was in his physical prime vs buster douglas that’s a fact don’t come with the mental prime crap a world class boxer should put his life outside the ring behind him as soon as that bell rings

            The fact is the first motivated guy Tyson fought who wasn’t scared of him beat his ass

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              #36
              Originally posted by NO FEAR
              Is there anyone?
              No there is no other fighter in history only Lennox Lewis who was stripped of every version of his undisputed title for refusing to fight the No1 contenders.. its a terrible black mark against Lewis but he obviously knew he could not beat those guys.

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                #37
                YOUR FORgETTING..

                The rematch king Evander Holyfield..who when past his best drew with Lennox Lewis and controversially lost the rematch on points..i watched that fight and thought Evander deserve it...
                Lennox lost to Rachman and apart from him fought a load of bums...a washed up Tyson,Garry Mason,..why didnt Lennox ever fight Rid**** Bowe?

                Out of Lennoxs 38 wins,the first 14 fighters he beat my mum could have beat!

                The next 24...most recent first...had 4 or 5 decent fighters in there,ONE very good fighter..Holyfield..who beat him..

                Win 41–2–1 Ukraine Vitali Klitschko TKO 6 (12), 3:00 21 June 2003 Los Angeles, California, U.S. Retained WBC/IBO Heavyweight titles.
                The fight was stopped after the 6th round, on the advice of the ringside doctor, due to a large cut over Klitschko's left eye.
                Win 40–2–1 United States Mike Tyson KO 8 (12), 2:25 8 June 2002 Memphis, Tennessee, U.S. Retained IBF/IBO/WBC Heavyweight
                titles.
                Win 39–2–1 United States Hasim Rahman KO 4 (12), 1:29 17 November 2001 Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S. Won IBF/IBO/WBC Heavyweight titles.
                Loss 38–2–1 United States Hasim Rahman KO 5(12) 22 April 2001 Brakpan, South Africa Lost IBF/IBO/WBC Heavyweight titles.
                Win 38–1–1 New Zealand David Tua Unan. decision 12 11 November 2000 Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S. Retained IBF/IBO/WBC Heavyweight
                titles.
                Win 37–1–1 South Africa Francois Botha TKO 2 (12), 2:39 15 July 2000 London, England Retained IBF/IBO/WBC Heavyweight
                titles.
                Win 36–1–1 United States Michael Grant KO 2 (12), 2:53 29 April 2000 New York City, New York, U.S. Retained IBF/IBO/WBC Heavyweight
                titles.
                Win 35–1–1 United States Evander Holyfield Unan. decision 12 13 November 1999 Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S. Retained WBC, and won IBF, WBA,
                and vacant IBO Heavyweight titles.
                The WBA title was later stripped due
                to refusal to fight John Ruiz.
                Draw 34–1–1 United States Evander Holyfield Decision 12 13 March 1999 New York City, New York, U.S. Lewis' WBC and Holyfield's IBF and
                WBA Heavyweight titles were at stake.
                Win 34–1 Croatia Željko Mavrović Unan. decision 12 26 September 1998 Uncasville, Connecticut, U.S. Retained WBC Heavyweight title.
                Win 33–1 United States Shannon Briggs TKO 5 (12), 1:45 28 March 1998 Atlantic City, New Jersey, U.S. Retained WBC Heavyweight title.
                Win 32–1 Poland Andrew Golota TKO 1 (12), 1:35 4 October 1997 Atlantic City, New Jersey, U.S. Retained WBC Heavyweight title.
                Win 31–1 United Kingdom Henry Akinwande Disqualification 5 (12), 2:34 12 July 1997 Stateline, Nevada, U.S. Retained WBC Heavyweight title.
                Akinwande was disqualified for
                repeated holding.
                Win 30–1 United States Oliver McCall TKO 5 (12), 0:55 7 February 1997 Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S. Won vacant WBC Heavyweight title.
                Win 29–1 United States Ray Mercer Maj. decision 10 10 May 1996 New York City, New York, U.S.
                Win 28–1 United States Tommy Morrison TKO 6 (12), 1:22 7 October 1995 Atlantic City, New Jersey, U.S. Won IBC Heavyweight title.
                Win 27–1 Australia Justin Fortune TKO 4 (10) 2 July 1995 Dublin, Ireland
                Win 26–1 United States Lionel Butler TKO 5 (12), 2:55 13 May 1995 Sacramento, California, U.S.
                Loss 25–1 United States Oliver McCall TKO 2 (12), 0:31 24 September 1994 London, England Lost WBC Heavyweight title.
                Win 25–0 United States Phil Jackson TKO 8 (12), 1:35 6 May 1994 Atlantic City, New Jersey, U.S. Retained WBC Heavyweight title.
                Win 24–0 United Kingdom Frank Bruno TKO 7 (12), 1:12 1 October 1993 Cardiff, Wales Retained WBC Heavyweight title.
                Win 23–0 United States Tony Tucker Unan. decision 12 8 May 1993 Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S. Retained WBC Heavyweight title.
                Lewis was declared the WBC Heavyweight Champion on 14 January 1993, after then-champion Rid**** Bowe refused to defend against him.
                Win 22–0 Canada Donovan Ruddock TKO 2 (12), 0:46 31 October 1992 London, England Retained Commonwealth
                Heavyweight title.
                Win 21–0 United States Mike Dixon TKO 4 (10), 1:03 11 August 1992 Atlantic City, New Jersey, U.S.
                Win 20–0 United Kingdom Derek Williams TKO 3 (12) 30 April 1992 London, England Retained EBU European
                Heavyweight and BBBofC British
                Heavyweight titles, won
                Commonwealth Heavyweight title
                and won outright Lonsdale Belt.
                Win 19–0 United States Levi Billups Unan. decision 10 1 February 1992 Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S.
                Win 18–0 United States Tyrell Biggs TKO 3 (10), 2:47 23 November 1991 Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.
                Win 17–0 United Kingdom Glenn McCrory TKO 2 (12) 30 September 1991 London, England Retained EBU European
                Heavyweight and BBBofC British
                Heavyweight titles.
                Win 16–0 United States Mike Weaver TKO 6 (10) 12 July 1991 Stateline, Nevada, U.S.
                Win 15–0 United Kingdom Gary Mason TKO 7 (12), 0:44 6 March 1991 London, England Retained EBU European

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                • Davros?
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                  #38
                  Lewis was not dominant at all in the 90's he never faced the top guys at the time eg Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson, Foreman, Moorer etc (not that it was always his fault mind you) he wasn’t really rated that highly either and he was beaten by McCall. Lewis was dominant in the early 00's but Holyfield was a bit past it by that point (I remember everyone was saying Holyfield was washed up before the Tyson fight) and Tyson was past it to he was also knocked out by Rahman.
                  Lewis was a great fighter but I don’t know there is always something about his career that is a bit of a let down to me, maybe because he never really faced a prime great fighter.

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                  • BattlingNelson
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by NO FEAR
                    Is there anyone?
                    A lot of champs did since only a few got KTFO by clubfighters when they where supposedly on top.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                      Lennox defeated everyone he ever fought, and pizza-faced the next guy in line.

                      No other champ In HW history can say that.
                      He also had his mom meet Vitaly so she could tell him whether he should give Big Vit a rematch he promised in front of millions, she told him no and he retired, no other HW in history has done that. True story...

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