Name me heavyweights who dominated their era the same as/more than Lennox Lewis.

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  • krazyn8tive
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    #11
    Originally posted by Bennett
    most of the names were already stopped by tyson. tainted.

    tyson vs lewis 92'-------tyson tko 3.

    /end_thread
    this statement is not a fact. it's speculation. come back to the world of the real

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    • edgarg
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      #12
      Originally posted by Soir
      The hardest thing to do in Boxing is to face the guy who defeated you!
      Foreman never rematched Ali

      Wlad never rematched Ross Puritty

      Vitali never rematched Chris Byrd

      And Tyson never rematched Buster Douglas!


      Lennox is above all of the previous names mentioned because he was not afraid to get in the ring with the man who dethroned him. That takes a lot of guts. Guts Tyson doesnt have.
      What you're actually saying is that the group of champions mentioned were nervous (or afraid) to fight returns. That's ridiculous. There was no point in Klitschko fighting Purrity again, Purrity was a fringe journeyman, with many losses, and Klitschko won every round except the 11th.

      Foreman and Ali's paths diverged, and Foreman, discouraged with himself, retired.

      The topic starter has barred all champions with Ali's opponents barely scraping over the size limits. Ali dominated for a while because most of his opponents were old, and slow. Holmes, although not dominant, was steady and solid, but Tyson absolutely dominated. He shattered just about every other champion except Bonecrusher Smith, who wrestled his way to a 12 round loss.

      I'm not sure that Lewis dominated, he lost his title twice and he didn't fight any of the other good champions, like Byrd or Ruiz. Naturally he was able to rematch his conquerors, as he was a worthy challenger, and it was contractual.He also had many very boring, safety first, and dull fights against poor competition which dragged on and on for 12 dreary rounds, like Tua and Mavrovic, amongst others. He beat Klitschko by the "skin of his teeth" in the form of a bad cut. Also they were the champions, and he a worthy challenger.

      Other dominant champions like Louis, Jeffries, Dempsey and Jack Johnson are barred because of the arbitrary size/weight stipulation laid down by the topic starter. this is calculated, it seems to me, to single out Lewis as the ONLY dominant champion........

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        #13
        Originally posted by NO FEAR
        Doesn't really count, seeing as the majority of Louis's opponents would have been little more than small cruiserweights in Lewis's era.
        Isn't Lewis' best wins are against small heavy/cruiserweights like Tyson and Holyfield??


        Ayayayay.....biased.

        Joe Louis dominated, Holmes dominated, Johnson Dominated, Ali dominated, Tyson dominated.

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        • edgarg
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          #14
          Originally posted by LightsOutLewis
          are you saying most of lewis's best oponents were already beat and stopped by tyson? thats news to me

          Lewis always had tysons number even when they were 18 sparing together..... tyson never wanted the fight
          As for the "sparring together" there are "57" different stories about that. You might get the truth from Tyson-if he recalls it, because he's a naturally truthful fellow, but you won't from Lewis, unless he beat Tyson up...which I doubt. 0

          As for Tyson not wanting to fight Lewis, at that stage in his life, boozed, drugged and worn out from all forms of excess, and battles with the authorities, Tyson was already well finished as "Iron Mike". Lewis forced him into that fight, knowing he had ALL the advantages, yet he was so careful that it took him 8 rounds to KO the empty Tyson shell.

          Phooey.......

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          • Ryn0
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            #15
            You can't just exclude Louis because he was small in a smaller era... He has done the best he could in the era he had.

            He was a legitimate HW champion and he dominated his era more than Lennox, I'm a fan of Lennox but he's second best in this catagory compared to Lewis.

            Holmes too, Im ignoring people who say Tyson because he clearly didn't domniate his era, he dominated a PART of he era.

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              #16
              Originally posted by edgarg
              As for the "sparring together" there are "57" different stories about that. You might get the truth from Tyson-if he recalls it, because he's a naturally truthful fellow, but you won't from Lewis, unless he beat Tyson up...which I doubt. 0

              As for Tyson not wanting to fight Lewis, at that stage in his life, boozed, drugged and worn out from all forms of excess, and battles with the authorities, Tyson was already well finished as "Iron Mike". Lewis forced him into that fight, knowing he had ALL the advantages, yet he was so careful that it took him 8 rounds to KO the empty Tyson shell.

              Phooey.......
              totaly true williams and mcbride finished tyson quicker so....he was shot to **** when lewis got him holyfield was also miles out his prime

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                #17
                Originally posted by Bennett
                most of the names were already stopped by tyson. tainted.

                tyson vs lewis 92'-------tyson tko 3.

                /end_thread
                No way in hell

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by edgarg
                  As for the "sparring together" there are "57" different stories about that. You might get the truth from Tyson-if he recalls it, because he's a naturally truthful fellow, but you won't from Lewis, unless he beat Tyson up...which I doubt. 0

                  As for Tyson not wanting to fight Lewis, at that stage in his life, boozed, drugged and worn out from all forms of excess, and battles with the authorities, Tyson was already well finished as "Iron Mike". Lewis forced him into that fight, knowing he had ALL the advantages, yet he was so careful that it took him 8 rounds to KO the empty Tyson shell.

                  Phooey.......
                  AND......lest we forget, the most dominant champions ever, in the mould of Tyson, Johnson and Louis, are the Klitschko Bros. They are not expected to lose in the forseeable future, and have mangled and crushed all their opponents.

                  Just my opinion.

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                    #19
                    Joe Louis and Ali though both had some tuff fights and losses, but Lennox did too.

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                    • Ryn0
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bennett
                      most of the names were already stopped by tyson. tainted.

                      tyson vs lewis 92'-------tyson tko 3.

                      /end_thread
                      LOL, One I don't think Tyson would beat Lewis but if he did it wouldn't be three rounds. Tyson had trouble with Holmes jab at the start of the fight and Smith managed to go the distance so Lewis would last IMO.

                      AND who had Tyson beat up and KO'd on Lewis resume? Holyfield? Tua? Mercer? Morrison? Briggs?

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