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  • peyk-peyk
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bhopreign
    No doubt Pacquaio, but Pacquaio wont take the tests, simple and plain, no fight. Better question is why would a man turn down 40 million over a simple drug test, guilty.
    If Floyd really wants it to make it simple then why demand the blood test?

    Is he really scared to fight just because of a hunch?

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    • big_james10
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      #42
      Originally posted by bbboxing
      Right now, Manny is considered by many, including all the experts and analysts to be ranked higher as an ATG compared to Floyd(dont bother arguing this, it has been done a million x before).

      If Flloyd beats Pac while he is on his peak, im sure he will instantly shoot higher than Pac and other ATGs, especially if he beats Mosely convincingly.

      So i think if Floyd cares about his legacy at all, he should drop the demands that he wants and fight Pac, which i think he is the favorite to win if it happens.
      Floyd is making two to three times as much in his fight against Mosley as Pac made in his fight against Clottey. Floyd's legacy is set. Those who believe he is a great fighter don't need to see him fight Pac to support this opinion. Those who don't think he is a great fighter never will regardless of who he fights. Floyd needs pac like I need a urinary tract infection.

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        #43
        Originally posted by bbboxing
        Same thing, its about money for Floyd right?
        Who can he fight that he can make the most money ever by any athlete in 1 day?
        I must have missed something. Is Manny Pacquaio fighting for free?

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        • BABYBOXER
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          #44
          facts about urine/blood test for other substance

          Originally posted by Bhopreign
          No doubt Pacquaio, but Pacquaio wont take the tests, simple and plain, no fight. Better question is why would a man turn down 40 million over a simple drug test, guilty.
          'can't blame you with your opinion, bro. manny did not turn down the 40M fight because of simple drug test, in fact, he was willing to have unlimited drug test by urine samples. he does'nt like blood sample because it weakens him (idk why?).

          for everybody's information, urine or blood samples are just the same body fluid that you can detect any substance (PED, drugs, roids, etc..) present on it by using the correct reagent depending on the substance you want to detect. you may ask a chemist what are these reagents for, or try to google it.

          in other words, what ever substance you want to detect from the blood can also be detected from the urine using an specific reagent.

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          • Clyde Barrow
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            #45
            Originally posted by Bhopreign
            Nobody cares about rankings, bottom line is more people pay to see Floyd fight than they do Pacquaio. After Pac pulled the stunt of not taking the drug test, I said this fight will never happen and I dont think it will.
            Crikey.

            And anyways, PBF should just forget about Pac already. That fight won't happen. If he beats Shane in a competitive fight, a rematch may be in order. If he wins one sidedly, Berto is credible, though a step down. He can go for a 2nd title at 154 if he doesn't retire after Mosley.

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            • bbboxing
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              #46
              Originally posted by tacoboxer
              I'm glad you brought up legacy.... lets talk about that for a minute.

              If you had to choose your legacy as a fighter..... which would you choose?

              One fighter (regardless if he is considered amongst the all-time greats in boxing) will be remembered as one of the best fighters in his era, for making a fundamental change that improved the sport of boxing and benefited all fighters to follow. He will also be remembered for the fight that didnt happen.... for never fighting one of the best fighters of his era because the other fighter didn't think additional testing to clean up the sport was necessary.

              OR

              One fighter (regardless if he is considered amongst the all-time greats in boxing) will be remembered as one of the best fighters of his era and for never facing one of the best fighters in his era. He turned down the opportunity because he didn't agree with additional measures that were just begining to take place to clean up the sport. He was suspected of being an unclean fighter but nothing was ever proven. He went on to fight others that didn't require him to test and ended up leaving the sport at the exact same time that the sport of boxing was cleaning out fighters using PED's use to protect clean fighters.

              History alone will judge....... Its pretty clear to me what leagacy I would choose.
              Like I said all you Floyd fans say that it is going to be a stigma, BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE. Roy Jones a proven steroid user is still considered the best of his era. The only **** on his resume is that he never really fought top level competition till late in his career. You guys keep bringing up these baseball examples but none in boxing.

              Originally posted by M.I.C.
              Mayweather is the biggest name, sells the most PPV, makes the most money, is going into the biggest fight of the year...yet TS says he needs Pac more????? really?!
              Not talking about money dude. I know thats what floyd says he focuses on, but im asking about his legacy as a fighter, who he fought and beat.

              Originally posted by big_james10
              I must have missed something. Is Manny Pacquaio fighting for free?
              Manny is not the one saying he is the greatest ever and that he is making all this money and that. its Floyd.



              Lets stop arguing about whose fault it is why the fight did not go through. its been done a million times here. Iva heard it all "Why would pac follow floyd he is not commision.". "Is pac is innocent he would take the test". STOP THE SHT.


              I still think Floyd should drop the odst request and fight Pac. It would be bigger for him.

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              • brick wall
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                #47
                leave the drug testing to the state commissions, that's their job and they already have rules in place. a fighter's role is to fight in the ring and entertain fans and not police other fighters.

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                • bbboxing
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by big_james10
                  Floyd is making two to three times as much in his fight against Mosley as Pac made in his fight against Clottey. Floyd's legacy is set. Those who believe he is a great fighter don't need to see him fight Pac to support this opinion. Those who don't think he is a great fighter never will regardless of who he fights. Floyd needs pac like I need a urinary tract infection.
                  If legacy means the most money, then i agree Floyd is set. But legacy is how most people will remember you as a boxer. Its who you fought and beat. Not really who you lost to if you are going to give the the 40-0 BS.

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                  • Boxingholic
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                    #49
                    Plain and simple *****s, Flyod and his drug testing request cant be trusted, since its been run by DLH/Mayweathers, and we all know Flyod cant be trusted and will always find a ways to have any advantages. Hell look at whats happening with Mosley now, How many times has Mosley been tested compared to Flyod? Get back to me on this when you find out. Im sure someone is getting advantage and its not Mosley!!

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                    • bbboxing
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                      #50
                      Also on the drug testing, arent *****s saying that there are steroids that go out of your system in a couple hours?

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