Newsflash: Boxing doesnt have height and reach classes.

[apokalips]

Could it occur to you Quintana might of had an off night like Williams' in the 1st fight??

IMO Quintana has more plausible excuses than Williams. Anyone can get caught cold, but not many people can get decisively beaten over 12 rounds by a lesser guy when they are supposed to be as dangerous as P Will is.

Anyway as for Williams fighting at 147 he's welcome to it and if he ever is weight drained its his own fault so whats the problem?

[IMDAZED]

IMO Quintana has more plausible excuses than Williams. Anyone can get caught cold, but not many people can get decisively beaten over 12 rounds by a lesser guy when they are supposed to be as dangerous as P Will is.

I think the getting caught cold excuse is strange (didn't Montell Griffin use that same excuse against Jones?). It's not like Quintana looked like ****. He came in and did his thing for about 30 seconds - even landed a couple times with his hooks and straight lefts just like the first fight. PW was just on a whole other level that night.

[OptimusWolf]

Good point guys, although I'd love to see Pacquaio vs Duran (my favourite fighter). I don't think that is easy to pick. Wouldn't call any of them bonafide ATGs either, but anyway I take your point.

Actually I can see a spot for him at 8-10 on my p4p list, as boxing is pretty weak right now outside of Mayweather and Pacman.

So we're all in agreement then. Williams is doing the right thing fighting Cintron, then he needs two more fights in 2010 lined up against some out of Foreman, Spinks, Martinez, Sturm, maybe Pavlik if he wants to get exposure at middleweight.

[Iceta Lives]

Man, this thread is a big cluster fuck of people trollin left and right. Real talk. The Paul Williams haters are here to stay and we've got Burner to thank for it. Guys like me and that other dude that used to post in here named Cruzan Mario are the good Paul Williams fans.

But even though I'm not biased toward Paul, I'll call out people who call the guy a diva. He made a miscalculation by not fighting Pavlik, and that was because he didn't trust the dude when it came to him getting in the ring like he was supposed to and it cost him time and money. Another thing people need to take into consideration is that Pavlik isn't the draw he used to be. The attendance for his fight with Martinez was weak compared to his fights with Taylor and Hops. I don't think Paul should've demanded 50-50. But the money should've been at least a little more in his favor after the **** that Pavlik pulled.

I know Pavlik had a legit injury. But I think that infection healed up eventually or else why would he have fought Espino?

[The Gambler1981]

Height and reach can be huge advantages it all depends on how one uses them though.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Man, this thread is a big cluster fuck of people trollin left and right. Real talk. The Paul Williams haters are here to stay and we've got Burner to thank for it. Guys like me and that other dude that used to post in here named Cruzan Mario are the good Paul Williams fans.

But even though I'm not biased toward Paul, I'll call out people who call the guy a diva. He made a miscalculation by not fighting Pavlik, and that was because he didn't trust the dude when it came to him getting in the ring like he was supposed to and it cost him time and money. Another thing people need to take into consideration is that Pavlik isn't the draw he used to be. The attendance for his fight with Martinez was weak compared to his fights with Taylor and Hops. I don't think Paul should've demanded 50-50. But the money should've been at least a little more in his favor after the **** that Pavlik pulled.

I know Pavlik had a legit injury. But I think that infection healed up eventually or else why would he have fought Espino?

Iceta please. I was the first Williams fan on this site. How the **** am I not a real fan?

[xAUGUSTUSx]

It probably should.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

It probably should.

So what weight class would Tyson fight in?

JMW?

[Iceta Lives]

Iceta please. I was the first Williams fan on this site. How the **** am I not a real fan?

I never said you weren't the dude's fan. But by the same tokken you rep him in a way that turns people against him.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I never said you weren't the dude's fan. But by the same tokken you rep him in a way that turns people against him.

It is what it is. People hate on him for NO reason. I never hailed him as Sugar Ray Robinson. People spew way too much BS when it comes to Paul in NSB. Maybe due to the fact that he calls out their favorite fighters 24/7. Has nothing to do with me.